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It seemed like a natural next step because a lot of sound chips in classic arcade games, like the Yamaha 2151 FM synthesis chip, were also used in some of Yamah

It seemed like a natural next step because a lot of sound chips in classic arcade games, like the Yamaha 2151 FM synthesis chip, were also used in some of Yamaha's keyboards including the DX100. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_YM2151 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_YM2151

sumtechguy 3y ago
This is the library that probably does it. https://github.com/aaronsgiles/ymfm https://github.com/aaronsgiles/ymfm He pulled a lot of the ymfm chips out of MAME put it into that lib then put that lib back into MAME. The analog chips are a bit more difficult as they in MAMEs case need a netlist made usually. Those can be tricky to get to have any sort of performance. They are fairly accurate though.
- joezydeco 3y ago
  Every time I see Aaron Giles on some MAME code I know it's going to be high-quality stuff. This guy is a beast.
  - sumtechguy 3y ago
    pitty the mame crew ran him off
    - epcoa 3y ago
      What the fuck are you talking about?
      - sumtechguy 3y ago
        https://github.com/mamedev/mame/pull/8576 https://github.com/mamedev/mame/pull/8576 He got tired of it.
        epcoa 3y ago
        Oh that. That's more of a rage "quit" because of longstanding disagreements and personal problems with an individual, no "crew" ran them out. Of note it's not like they stopped their drama, it continued on the MAMEWorld forums. And it's not like aarongiles has stopped all MAME related work. https://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=394137&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1 https://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&... And even if I don't agree with cuavas entirely, they aren't totally in the wrong here either IMHO and they do explain their positions. I happen to agree with their disdain and disingenuity of keeping hoarded roms "safe", Aaron's sanctimony does get annoying at times even if unintentional and I can see how it can rub someone the wrong way, especially with as much effort invested as cuavas. Seriously if MAME was really the shithole a number of (primarily American clique) loudmouths have been saying it is, they should just fork, talk is cheap though
        user9438 3y ago
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        PaulHoule 3y ago
        Reminds me of the time in Dec 1999 I wrote a patch to add save files for the NES emulator in MESS because my wife was playing Legend of Zelda and wanted to save.
    - pbj1968 3y ago
      Ain’t no drama like pac man drama.
dep_b 3y ago
There's quite a bit of variety between different DX synthesizers in terms of sound, even when they seem to be the same on paper like the DX11 and the TX81z. I bought a bunch of them when they were still cheap but it's hard to get rid of them because they all have quite recognizable signature sound. This chip is particularly gritty and raw. Getting a DX27 instead of a DX100 will save you a lot of money. Really no clue why the DX100 is so expensive.
- djaychela 3y ago
  > Really no clue why the DX100 is so expensive. Id think it's the former users who give it a level of desirability which does it, looking at the Wikipedia page for the DX100...

sumtechguy 3y ago

This is the library that probably does it. https://github.com/aaronsgiles/ymfm https://github.com/aaronsgiles/ymfm He pulled a lot of the ymfm chips out of MAME put it into that lib then put that lib back into MAME. The analog chips are a bit more difficult as they in MAMEs case need a netlist made usually. Those can be tricky to get to have any sort of performance. They are fairly accurate though.

joezydeco 3y ago
Every time I see Aaron Giles on some MAME code I know it's going to be high-quality stuff. This guy is a beast.
- sumtechguy 3y ago
  pitty the mame crew ran him off
  - epcoa 3y ago
    What the fuck are you talking about?
    - sumtechguy 3y ago
      https://github.com/mamedev/mame/pull/8576 https://github.com/mamedev/mame/pull/8576 He got tired of it.
      - epcoa 3y ago
        Oh that. That's more of a rage "quit" because of longstanding disagreements and personal problems with an individual, no "crew" ran them out. Of note it's not like they stopped their drama, it continued on the MAMEWorld forums. And it's not like aarongiles has stopped all MAME related work. https://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=394137&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1 https://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&... And even if I don't agree with cuavas entirely, they aren't totally in the wrong here either IMHO and they do explain their positions. I happen to agree with their disdain and disingenuity of keeping hoarded roms "safe", Aaron's sanctimony does get annoying at times even if unintentional and I can see how it can rub someone the wrong way, especially with as much effort invested as cuavas. Seriously if MAME was really the shithole a number of (primarily American clique) loudmouths have been saying it is, they should just fork, talk is cheap though
        user9438 3y ago
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      - PaulHoule 3y ago
        Reminds me of the time in Dec 1999 I wrote a patch to add save files for the NES emulator in MESS because my wife was playing Legend of Zelda and wanted to save.
  - pbj1968 3y ago
    Ain’t no drama like pac man drama.

dep_b 3y ago

There's quite a bit of variety between different DX synthesizers in terms of sound, even when they seem to be the same on paper like the DX11 and the TX81z. I bought a bunch of them when they were still cheap but it's hard to get rid of them because they all have quite recognizable signature sound. This chip is particularly gritty and raw. Getting a DX27 instead of a DX100 will save you a lot of money. Really no clue why the DX100 is so expensive.

djaychela 3y ago
> Really no clue why the DX100 is so expensive. Id think it's the former users who give it a level of desirability which does it, looking at the Wikipedia page for the DX100...