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The current ride pricing feels about 10-20% less than an Uber in SF - but I haven't really checked properly. So don't expect the rideshare product (Waymo One) t
by fhub 3y ago
The current ride pricing feels about 10-20% less than an Uber in SF - but I haven't really checked properly. So don't expect the rideshare product (Waymo One) to be a super cheap option.
- gmassman 3y agoThis morning my coworkers rode in together in a Waymo. One told me it was $16 while an Uber would have been $35.
- fhub 3y agoFrom my personal experience they are priced cheaper for all rides. But rarely that much cheaper - perhaps a surge time? The variable that differs is time to pickup. I've found Waymo is generally pretty good for me in off-peak times - perhaps on average 2-3 minutes further away on average. But I have got the odd "20 minutes away" and I then just order an Uber. But I will always pick a Waymo over an Uber if they are the same distance away. I love playing my own music and just being in my own world without another human to consider. It is truly a relaxing commute.
- nemothekid 3y agoAre you able to play music on the car speakers from your phone? The process on iPhone seems very awkward (talking to google assistant instead of just selecting a song).
- fhub 3y agoI do it the awkward way too. But I typical play an artist that I loved two decades ago and crank the volume. So "My music" wasn't the best way to describe it. More music that is just for me. I don't find their inbuilt music channels you can play from the center console to be that good. There is lots of UX things that could be done with music that wouldn't be hard.
- KKKKkkkk1 3y ago> But I will always pick a Waymo over an Uber if they are the same distance away. I love playing my own music and just being in my own world without another human to consider. It is truly a relaxing commute. Not to ruin your commute, do you know if there are interior-facing cameras monitoring the passengers?
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- willsmith72 3y agoisn't that just because the waymos are still funded by VCs? an uber might've been the same 10 years ago, but now they've achieved world domination it's time to make a profit
- semiquaver 3y agoWaymo is fully owned by a public company. Economically they are indistinguishable from Uber (other than having a huge ad profit center to subsidize them). What VCs are you referring to?
- svachalek 3y agoIt's still in the R&D phase though. It's not out there to make a profit like Uber or Lyft.
- xnx 3y agoWaymo is definitely in the phase where they want to form a positive impression on all fronts: safety, convenience, price. Once widespread, it's possible that they'll charge more than Uber because of the extra privacy and safety in a Waymo ride.
- shiroiuma 3y ago>Once widespread, it's possible that they'll charge more than Uber because of the extra privacy and safety in a Waymo ride. It's possible, but I don't think it's something you can assume. Having to pay for a chauffeur isn't cheap, and that's what you're doing with Uber. A robotaxi avoids that cost since it drives itself.
- arcticbull 3y agoEngineers are significantly more expensive than chauffeurs, especially since the chauffeurs get paid roughly minimum wage - or less. I too am very curious where pricing settles out.
- belltaco 3y agoI read that Waymo is losing 2 to 3 billion dollars a year.
- tanseydavid 3y agoUber lost $9.1B in 2022. https://fourweekmba.com/uber-losses-by-year/ https://fourweekmba.com/uber-losses-by-year/
- raylad 3y agoLast time I checked (in SF), Uber was $16.70 for a ride I wanted to take and Waymo was $25.40. All things being equal (or anywhere near equal), I'll pay the human driver rather than the bot.
- superfrank 3y agoDon't forget no pressure to tip your Waymo
- morelisp 3y agoThere will be. "Donate $1 to Waymo's autonomous safety research fund?"
- b112 3y agoNo, it will be the United Way. Or to help give poor children blankets. And it will be offered, when Waymo's onboard AI detects you're on a date, verbally, so the date can hear. So even if you give to charites in a meaningful way, you'll end up doing it again or look crass and be embarrassed. And as with many of these "at the till" charity collections, there is a fee given to the collector. Who will be Google! Plus, not only do they get to track your co-riders, eg who you associate with, and where you go, and even all conversation in the car (anonymized, of course), now they get to track your charitable predilections, by offering choice.
- mattsan 3y agoOk so say hypothetically they have the balls to record conversations in your car. Wouldn't they already be recording from your pocket? (I know it's sarcasm and you're spot on about the charities lmao)
- b112 3y agoI wonder though. You own the phone. And they mostly get in trouble for lying about the things they record on phone, not for doing it. But they own the car. And is it illegal for a cabbie to listen, and then tell their boss a stock tip, or that the Jones are buying a new house? To add distance, they could real time listen in car, process locally, and only upload highlights as tags/text, so no recording. They could also process live, and then offer services in ride, eg "notice your hair is shaggy, Google Maps says this is a good barber!", and of course if you want that referral, as a barber, Google Maps you pay. Google can't help itself. It is like a kleptomaniac, it knows it shouldn't, but for those voices in its head(managers), do it.. do it! You know you want to, you need to, you should! Oh it's so shiny oh god... And it relents, turning all pure dreams into ashes. Waymo will be the ultimate platform to know even more about you, and to monetize it further.
- perryizgr8 3y agoIn the long term, prices will be determined by what the market will bear. It will be irrelevant if Waymo is cheaper to operate because they don't have to pay a driver. And if Waymo is the only game in town, as it seems to be far ahead of everyone else, expect only a minor discount over the regular human driven cab.