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Just an FYI, but that wiring is way out of code. Edit: The reason I bring this up is because if it starts a fire no insurance is going to cover the lose. You'l

Just an FYI, but that wiring is way out of code. Edit: The reason I bring this up is because if it starts a fire no insurance is going to cover the lose. You'll be out of pocket big time in an apartment.

pagekalisedown 15y ago
That's another good reason why you should consult your landlord before embarking on this type of project.
- stevenspasbo 15y ago
  The article said the landlord lives above him and gave him the OK on the project.
p1mrx 15y ago
> if it starts a fire no insurance is going to cover the [loss]. Are you sure about that? On what evidence are you basing this claim? I've been searching for the last 20 minutes, and all I can conclude is that this is a very subtle and complex issue: http://www.doityourself.com/forum/electrical-c-d-c/410442-can-insurance-company-deny-claim-if-unpermitted-work-causes-fire.html http://www.doityourself.com/forum/electrical-c-d-c/410442-ca...
- DougWebb 15y ago
  He's got an electrical junction in an uncovered box. That's a fire hazard. And even if he boxed it properly (by removing the outlet box and replacing it with a junction box) it would be against code to plywood over the frame and make the junction inaccessible. To do this properly he could have left the original outlet accessible in a little well and ran an extension cord to it, or he could have run a wire into the back of the box, through the wall, to a new outlet box higher up. He would have had to keep it directly above the old box to avoid trying to snake the wire horizontally through framing, but that would probably be ok. Now that I think about it, there is probably a code violation in having his new outlet so close to the hvac vent, and also having it horizontal without using a covered floor-style outlet.
  - yardie 15y ago
    It's San Francisco. The parts of the city that haven't burned down yet, and been rebuilt, will burn down eventually. :-)

pagekalisedown 15y ago

That's another good reason why you should consult your landlord before embarking on this type of project.

stevenspasbo 15y ago
The article said the landlord lives above him and gave him the OK on the project.

p1mrx 15y ago

> if it starts a fire no insurance is going to cover the [loss]. Are you sure about that? On what evidence are you basing this claim? I've been searching for the last 20 minutes, and all I can conclude is that this is a very subtle and complex issue: http://www.doityourself.com/forum/electrical-c-d-c/410442-can-insurance-company-deny-claim-if-unpermitted-work-causes-fire.html http://www.doityourself.com/forum/electrical-c-d-c/410442-ca...

DougWebb 15y ago
He's got an electrical junction in an uncovered box. That's a fire hazard. And even if he boxed it properly (by removing the outlet box and replacing it with a junction box) it would be against code to plywood over the frame and make the junction inaccessible. To do this properly he could have left the original outlet accessible in a little well and ran an extension cord to it, or he could have run a wire into the back of the box, through the wall, to a new outlet box higher up. He would have had to keep it directly above the old box to avoid trying to snake the wire horizontally through framing, but that would probably be ok. Now that I think about it, there is probably a code violation in having his new outlet so close to the hvac vent, and also having it horizontal without using a covered floor-style outlet.
- yardie 15y ago
  It's San Francisco. The parts of the city that haven't burned down yet, and been rebuilt, will burn down eventually. :-)