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No, they have to show they cannot return to their home. The Georgia war ended a long time ago, but Georgian who used to live in occupied Georgia are still cons
by orwin 3y ago
No, they have to show they cannot return to their home. The Georgia war ended a long time ago, but Georgian who used to live in occupied Georgia are still considered refugees.
And you sidestepped my comment about UNRWA. They have nothing to do with the Palestinian refugee status or the right to return, yet you attack them. Also sidestepped is the acknowledgement that you have to have a Palestinian state to make Palestinians refugees living in the West Bank not refugees. This cannot happen as long as the two state solution do not exist (and the best solution would be one based on the one drafted during the Oslo accords, don't you agree?)
I think we agree on putting Gaza under UN supervision, however your first comment was about denying the whole Palestine any governmental right, including the West Bank, because of Fatah's struggle. Its like your comments on Fatah, I find it incredibly interesting that a nation who violently fought for its right to existence would deny the same right to another.
- crabbone 3y agoUNRWA is the label for multiple issues related to Palestinian refugees, including the right to return. Yes, they have everything to do with it. The sole purpose of this organization is to deal with Palestinian refugees, which UN made a special case, separate from all other refugees. It's literally called "United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East". Does it sound like they have nothing to do with Palestinian refugees? I mean, unironically, UN is full of b/s and nonsense. W/o specific knowledge of this organization, I'd say they might have been unrelated to Palestinian refugees, despite their name... but they are not. Did their officials create the disaster in Palestine themselves (including the right of return)? -- No, they are too dumb to accomplish anything of such magnitude. Best they can do is organize soccer games in refugee camps, you know, instead of providing decent accommodations / healthcare / teaching useful skills or language etc. That's their MO: being totally useless and sometimes harmful through sheer stupidity. But they are the UN's implementation of UN's policies, including the right of return. Whenever any Israeli talks about UNRWA, they don't mean the worthless soccer games and photo-ops with underage starving refugees. They mean UN policies represented by this organization. > Oslo accords That ship sailed long time ago. At the time, there was a hope that Palestinians could self-govern and become a responsible country. Today, Gaza to a larger degree, but West Bank is trailing not to far behind, are sliding into the same condition where Syria and Lebanon are: a "failed state". A plot of land ran by gangs of terrorists. Thanks Iran, mostly. But stupidity of various international organizations duped into supporting and financing terrorists in these lands might be a close second. I've heard Macron is pushing towards anti-ISIS coalition taking control of Gaza after the purge of Hamas. Of all plans I've heard so far for Gaza, this is the best way forward IMO. > a nation who violently fought for its right to existence would deny the same right to another. Read it again. I said temporary. Gaza and West Bank today are unsalvageable w/o international intervention. If they want to not die out / devolve into a shooting range where everyone and their uncle test new weapons, they need to accept a foreign rule. Nobody's denying them existence. Much in the same way how post-WW2 government of Germany and Japan didn't try to kill off Germans or Japanese.