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>Cut the infinite exponential growth bullshit, they should be expected to slowly and carefull craft quality products and systems and release like a new generati

>Cut the infinite exponential growth bullshit, they should be expected to slowly and carefull craft quality products and systems and release like a new generation whatever like no sooner than like 3-4 years. I hate this new year, new phone/laptop/whatver crap. It's interesting that Orwell got this one wrong: turns out that endless war isn't necessary as a sink for meaningless production after all. We can do that just fine on our own.

imtringued 3y ago
To be fair this was the case all the way until world war 2 which was ended on the Japanese side by nuclear weapons. Since the age of nuclear, it is no longer possible to have minor conflicts between super powers, only mutually assured destruction. Meanwhile Russia can't generate domestic demand. They got their GDP growth from their war industry.
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  > Since the age of nuclear, it is no longer possible to have minor conflicts between super powers, only mutually assured destruction. Its not only possible, its happened multiple times, but downplaying it (Syria recently) or outright pretending it wasn't happening when both sides were fully aware (Korean war air combat) have been part of managing escalation risk.
- ivlad 3y ago
  Korea and Afghanistan are obvious counter-examples.
- secondary_op 3y ago
  WW2 "not ended on the Japanese side by nuclear weapons", it ended when U.S. bombed out of existence 2 whole Japanese cities with nuclear weapons and with subsequent defeat and subordination of Japan witch to this day is puppet of U.S. Since then U.S. waging wars and launder money out of pockets of tax payers into conflict zones it created and back into its own industrial military complex. Here is some punchy whataboutism for your, deal with it.
johnnyworker 3y ago
Just because it's such an important and correct quote. > War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable, and hence, in the long run, too intelligent. -- George Orwell
- Obscurity4340 3y ago
  Is this commentsry on like inflation or something?
  - johnnyworker 3y ago
    No, it's on war. > Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. > This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. > This is, I repeat, the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron. -- Dwight Eisenhower, https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/dwighteisenhowercrossofiron.htm https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/dwighteisenhowercr...

imtringued 3y ago

To be fair this was the case all the way until world war 2 which was ended on the Japanese side by nuclear weapons. Since the age of nuclear, it is no longer possible to have minor conflicts between super powers, only mutually assured destruction. Meanwhile Russia can't generate domestic demand. They got their GDP growth from their war industry.

dragonwriter 3y ago
> Since the age of nuclear, it is no longer possible to have minor conflicts between super powers, only mutually assured destruction. Its not only possible, its happened multiple times, but downplaying it (Syria recently) or outright pretending it wasn't happening when both sides were fully aware (Korean war air combat) have been part of managing escalation risk.
ivlad 3y ago
Korea and Afghanistan are obvious counter-examples.
secondary_op 3y ago
WW2 "not ended on the Japanese side by nuclear weapons", it ended when U.S. bombed out of existence 2 whole Japanese cities with nuclear weapons and with subsequent defeat and subordination of Japan witch to this day is puppet of U.S. Since then U.S. waging wars and launder money out of pockets of tax payers into conflict zones it created and back into its own industrial military complex. Here is some punchy whataboutism for your, deal with it.

johnnyworker 3y ago

Just because it's such an important and correct quote. > War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable, and hence, in the long run, too intelligent. -- George Orwell

Obscurity4340 3y ago
Is this commentsry on like inflation or something?
- johnnyworker 3y ago
  No, it's on war. > Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. > This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. > This is, I repeat, the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron. -- Dwight Eisenhower, https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/dwighteisenhowercrossofiron.htm https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/dwighteisenhowercr...