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Fallout 2, 3 and 4 and new vegas are all excellent games with really deep PRG fun in them. definitely on my classics list.

viraptor 3y ago
One of those wasn't that deep unfortunately. I hope they won't go the way of 4.
- bilsbie 3y ago
  Is that why I enjoyed 3 so much more than 4?
  - m463 3y ago
    4 seemed like it could be an add-on to 3 (the reward was less plot-based, but more crates with special items)
footlose_3815 3y ago
3 and NV are the shining stars of that series. 4 was shallow but beautiful. I bet they are going to spend a couple episodes building a base.
- orwin 3y ago
  The main quest of 4 was shallow, but i really loved the idea behind Minutemen and the raiders (and Nuka world was nice), and the Far harbor DLC was really good (flashback of Necropolis). The idea behind the cryogenized survivor was interesting, but imho they flunked both the main "villain" and the synth idea. Once again i found that the Brotherhood is just a bad idea 99% of the time (with the exception of what was done in NV, each game it was just lazy writing), but this time it's just a useless faction (except for the "Giant robot fight with PA" part, but tbh, that could have worked as a Railroad vs Institute without the Brotherhood ever being mentionned). The Railroad idea could have been good, but their opposition (the institute) brought them down, and finally, the only faction who does not suffer that much lore-wise from the poor main storyline are the Minutemen, because like the Brotherhood, they are not _really_ involved with the synth, but unlike the BH, they have another reason to be here. Didn't love the 3 either. I did like ?Megaton city? (sorry, i had the game in French the last time i played) better than most places in NV and 4, but except for that, the alien stuff, the submarine... I think Oblivion had better writing sometimes (i'm joking, but not that much). Just thinking about that makes me want to play Morrowind again, i think i would totally buy a remaster on a newer engine :/ I'm a sucker sometimes.
D13Fd 3y ago
Fallout 1 was excellent too, and the series still suffers from the decisions made in Fallout 2 - particularly the timeline jump, the tribals, and the Enclave (which is fun but even more implausible than many of the series' other elements). Fallout 1 was 84 years after the war, and it was easier to imagine that functioning structures, robots etc. still exist. Fallout 2 was set 164 years after the blast, sadly, and the rest of the series has been stuck there for continuity's sake.
sidewndr46 3y ago
is there a way to play New Vegas on PC? The last time I tried it there was some issue with more than 2 enemy characters being involved in combat at any time. The frame rate would drop to less than 10.
- viraptor 3y ago
  https://store.steampowered.com/app/22380/Fallout_New_Vegas/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/22380/Fallout_New_Vegas/ It just works as far as I remember. A good time to grab a bundle at a discount as well.
- muhwalt 3y ago
  Using the Viva New Vegas Guide, you can get a very functional install of New Vegas. I'd recommend the steam version, because most mods are made for that one. https://vivanewvegas.moddinglinked.com/index.html https://vivanewvegas.moddinglinked.com/index.html
- m463 3y ago
  no drm on gog. On sale now $6.59 https://www.gog.com/en/game/fallout_new_vegas_ultimate_edition https://www.gog.com/en/game/fallout_new_vegas_ultimate_editi...
  - sidewndr46 3y ago
    I'm not sure DRM has anything to do with it. From what I can New Vegas on PC uses a N-squared approach for enemy AI or something like that.

viraptor 3y ago

One of those wasn't that deep unfortunately. I hope they won't go the way of 4.

bilsbie 3y ago
Is that why I enjoyed 3 so much more than 4?
- m463 3y ago
  4 seemed like it could be an add-on to 3 (the reward was less plot-based, but more crates with special items)

footlose_3815 3y ago

3 and NV are the shining stars of that series. 4 was shallow but beautiful. I bet they are going to spend a couple episodes building a base.

orwin 3y ago
The main quest of 4 was shallow, but i really loved the idea behind Minutemen and the raiders (and Nuka world was nice), and the Far harbor DLC was really good (flashback of Necropolis). The idea behind the cryogenized survivor was interesting, but imho they flunked both the main "villain" and the synth idea. Once again i found that the Brotherhood is just a bad idea 99% of the time (with the exception of what was done in NV, each game it was just lazy writing), but this time it's just a useless faction (except for the "Giant robot fight with PA" part, but tbh, that could have worked as a Railroad vs Institute without the Brotherhood ever being mentionned). The Railroad idea could have been good, but their opposition (the institute) brought them down, and finally, the only faction who does not suffer that much lore-wise from the poor main storyline are the Minutemen, because like the Brotherhood, they are not _really_ involved with the synth, but unlike the BH, they have another reason to be here. Didn't love the 3 either. I did like ?Megaton city? (sorry, i had the game in French the last time i played) better than most places in NV and 4, but except for that, the alien stuff, the submarine... I think Oblivion had better writing sometimes (i'm joking, but not that much). Just thinking about that makes me want to play Morrowind again, i think i would totally buy a remaster on a newer engine :/ I'm a sucker sometimes.

D13Fd 3y ago

Fallout 1 was excellent too, and the series still suffers from the decisions made in Fallout 2 - particularly the timeline jump, the tribals, and the Enclave (which is fun but even more implausible than many of the series' other elements). Fallout 1 was 84 years after the war, and it was easier to imagine that functioning structures, robots etc. still exist. Fallout 2 was set 164 years after the blast, sadly, and the rest of the series has been stuck there for continuity's sake.

sidewndr46 3y ago

is there a way to play New Vegas on PC? The last time I tried it there was some issue with more than 2 enemy characters being involved in combat at any time. The frame rate would drop to less than 10.

viraptor 3y ago
https://store.steampowered.com/app/22380/Fallout_New_Vegas/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/22380/Fallout_New_Vegas/ It just works as far as I remember. A good time to grab a bundle at a discount as well.
muhwalt 3y ago
Using the Viva New Vegas Guide, you can get a very functional install of New Vegas. I'd recommend the steam version, because most mods are made for that one. https://vivanewvegas.moddinglinked.com/index.html https://vivanewvegas.moddinglinked.com/index.html
m463 3y ago
no drm on gog. On sale now $6.59 https://www.gog.com/en/game/fallout_new_vegas_ultimate_edition https://www.gog.com/en/game/fallout_new_vegas_ultimate_editi...
- sidewndr46 3y ago
  I'm not sure DRM has anything to do with it. From what I can New Vegas on PC uses a N-squared approach for enemy AI or something like that.