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> People should have the right to choose what they want to do with their own body, including the choice to kill themselves. Many suicide attempt survivors don'

by zirgs 3y ago

> People should have the right to choose what they want to do with their own body, including the choice to kill themselves. Many suicide attempt survivors don't try it again.

tremon 3y ago
Nor do the successful ones
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Pannoniae 3y ago
Because it's hard and society makes it as hard as possible to do it in a dignified way without lots of suffering. It's not as easy as you think, even when you are suffering. Being an empty walking corpse but technically living isn't any better than going through with it.
- zirgs 3y ago
  Those who really want to die - will find a way. But there should be obstacles to discourage those who have temporary problems. I mean - we can agree that if your crush rejects you when you're 16 years old - that isn't a good reason to take your own life. But if you're terminally ill and don't have much time left anyway then suicide is totally OK.
StevenWaterman 3y ago
That doesn't mean they want to be alive though. Surviving a suicide attempt is a pretty awful and traumatic experience. It's entirely logical to not try again, out of fear that you will survive. Of course, that's absolutely not universal. There are plenty of survivors who go on to live happy lives. But it's disingenuous to say that not trying again is evidence that they want to be alive.
baobabKoodaa 3y ago
When people have the right to control their own lives, they will sometimes make bad decisions. Yes, sometimes that means a person will kill themselves in a spur of the moment thing when they really shouldn't have. And other times that means a person will contemplate suicide a really long time, continue their unnecessary suffering, and later regret their choice to live. Give people autonomy and they sometimes make bad decisions. Is that not obvious? What do you want? You want to be the judge who decides for others how they should live or die? Get off your high horse, you're not God.

by zirgs 3y ago

> People should have the right to choose what they want to do with their own body, including the choice to kill themselves. Many suicide attempt survivors don't try it again.

tremon 3y ago

Nor do the successful ones

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Pannoniae 3y ago

Because it's hard and society makes it as hard as possible to do it in a dignified way without lots of suffering. It's not as easy as you think, even when you are suffering. Being an empty walking corpse but technically living isn't any better than going through with it.

zirgs 3y ago
Those who really want to die - will find a way. But there should be obstacles to discourage those who have temporary problems. I mean - we can agree that if your crush rejects you when you're 16 years old - that isn't a good reason to take your own life. But if you're terminally ill and don't have much time left anyway then suicide is totally OK.

StevenWaterman 3y ago

That doesn't mean they want to be alive though. Surviving a suicide attempt is a pretty awful and traumatic experience. It's entirely logical to not try again, out of fear that you will survive. Of course, that's absolutely not universal. There are plenty of survivors who go on to live happy lives. But it's disingenuous to say that not trying again is evidence that they want to be alive.

baobabKoodaa 3y ago

When people have the right to control their own lives, they will sometimes make bad decisions. Yes, sometimes that means a person will kill themselves in a spur of the moment thing when they really shouldn't have. And other times that means a person will contemplate suicide a really long time, continue their unnecessary suffering, and later regret their choice to live. Give people autonomy and they sometimes make bad decisions. Is that not obvious? What do you want? You want to be the judge who decides for others how they should live or die? Get off your high horse, you're not God.