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Fair, but these pilot mental health incidents are not that common. We all rightly resented two decades of taking off our shoes in security because of that one s

Fair, but these pilot mental health incidents are not that common. We all rightly resented two decades of taking off our shoes in security because of that one shoe bombing attempt. The trick would be to position it as being about broader spectrum welfare than just a binary determination of whether you're crazy enough to try to kill a plane full of innocent passengers.

kkielhofner 3y ago
Correct. I’m an aviation geek/disaster post mortem junkie and the only incident I’m aware of is Germanwings (obviously) and potentially MH370 depending on which scenario/theory you subscribe to. There have been a few other incidents that essentially boil down to CRM (crew resource management) issues regarding pilots with clear and obvious personality issues that when combined with the wrong crew members has resulted in loss of life. Basically, combine someone on the flight deck with seniority who’s an asshole with a junior and impressionable crew member and it can be a problem: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Airlink_Flight_5719 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Airlink_Flight_571... Either way aviation is remarkably safe generally speaking and I’m not sure I’d put mandatory therapy, etc towards the top of the list in terms of approaches to make flying even safer. Of course pilots have a tough job and are responsible for hundreds of lives at a time and their needs should be looked after. But the incident rate just isn’t there. “Aviation regulations are written in blood”.
- reisse 3y ago
  There is also, allegedly, Chinese Eastern catastrophe from last year: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Eastern_Airlines_Flight_5735 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Eastern_Airlines_Fligh...
- nradov 3y ago
  EgyptAir flight 990 in 1999 is also suspected to be a suicide. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_990?wprov=sfla1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_990?wprov=sfla...
- oicu812 3y ago
  Fedex Flight 705 was an attempted hijacking by a suicidal pilot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Express_Flight_705 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Express_Flight_705

kkielhofner 3y ago

Correct. I’m an aviation geek/disaster post mortem junkie and the only incident I’m aware of is Germanwings (obviously) and potentially MH370 depending on which scenario/theory you subscribe to. There have been a few other incidents that essentially boil down to CRM (crew resource management) issues regarding pilots with clear and obvious personality issues that when combined with the wrong crew members has resulted in loss of life. Basically, combine someone on the flight deck with seniority who’s an asshole with a junior and impressionable crew member and it can be a problem: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Airlink_Flight_5719 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Airlink_Flight_571... Either way aviation is remarkably safe generally speaking and I’m not sure I’d put mandatory therapy, etc towards the top of the list in terms of approaches to make flying even safer. Of course pilots have a tough job and are responsible for hundreds of lives at a time and their needs should be looked after. But the incident rate just isn’t there. “Aviation regulations are written in blood”.

reisse 3y ago
There is also, allegedly, Chinese Eastern catastrophe from last year: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Eastern_Airlines_Flight_5735 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Eastern_Airlines_Fligh...
nradov 3y ago
EgyptAir flight 990 in 1999 is also suspected to be a suicide. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_990?wprov=sfla1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_990?wprov=sfla...
oicu812 3y ago
Fedex Flight 705 was an attempted hijacking by a suicidal pilot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Express_Flight_705 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Express_Flight_705