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Step in the right direction, but I wonder what's taking so long on getting support for cameras. That's my biggest use case at the moment. Having a bunch of Nest

Step in the right direction, but I wonder what's taking so long on getting support for cameras. That's my biggest use case at the moment. Having a bunch of Nest cameras that don't natively incorporate with HomeKit and having to do all sorts of work arounds to get a still generally crappy experience is killing my excitement for the smart home. And I won't buy new ones until they support Matter and there is true interoperability.

boromi 3y ago
Came here to make the same comment. It seems like we are going to be waiting a while for video.
malfist 3y ago
Probably the same reason video is always hard, there's 7 million codecs. Might also be privacy
- brigade 3y ago
  I seriously doubt there’s a single camera supporting Apple/Google/Amazon integration that doesn’t support H.264 plus AAC
  - supergeek133 3y ago
    Even between Google and Amazon you have different streaming support (Amazon is RTSPS, Google is WebRTC)
- throw0101a 3y ago
  > Probably the same reason video is always hard, there's 7 million codecs. ONVIF has specifications/profiles for management, functionality, and codecs (S and T): * https://www.onvif.org/profiles-add-ons-specifications/ https://www.onvif.org/profiles-add-ons-specifications/ * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ONVIF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ONVIF
  - tw04 3y ago
    Sure but none of it seems to work for battery powered cameras which is a giant missing piece.
    - maven29 3y ago
      https://github.com/OpenIPC/firmware https://github.com/OpenIPC/firmware You can get onvif-compliant firmware for some of those, but battery-powered operation cannot be expected to remain practical, given what onvif focuses on.
wil421 3y ago
Does Homebridge not have a plug in for Nest? The one for Unifi cameras is just ok and takes forever to load an image. The doorbell notification is better than the camera experience.
- adocomplete 3y ago
  It does, but it is pretty bad. Loads very slowly. Randomly disconnects. Just overall a janky experience.
- rcdemski 3y ago
  For Unifi cameras I switched from Homebridge to Scrypted. The streams load near instant when on the same network. All around a much more polished experience.
  - ancorevard 3y ago
    I recently just made the opposite switch, from Scrypted to Homebridge. Just less maintenance with Homebridge. As long as you have enough memory (Raspberry Pi 4+) it's a great experince.
dheera 3y ago
Also I have no idea why I couldn't pair Matter devices using just my computer. Home Assistant wanted me to use a mobile app to do the pairing. No thanks. I shouldn't need to use a phone at home, phone is for outside, at home I use BIG computers and BIG screens to do everything.
fidotron 3y ago
Probably philosophical differences over the use of CODECs which require patent licensing. The hardware universe looks on these things very differently from the web one.
judge2020 3y ago
Unfortunately the options for HKSV doorbells is fairly limited. The Logitech circle view Doorbell looks like the best candidate but it has a spotty review history, with the biggest complaint being it breaking in direct sunlight. I’m about to buy some cameras and I’m thinking of just buying Nest and using https://scrypted.app https://scrypted.app to bridge to HKSV.
- klinquist 3y ago
  Aqara makes a HKSV doorbell. The camera is sub-par but it's cheap and works!
- dylan604 3y ago
  >with the biggest complaint being it breaking in direct sunlight. I feel its pain. I break down in direct sunlight too. Doorbells would definitely be tricky, as I doubt most people know the path of the sun over course of a full year. I'd assume that most people look at the sun at the time of installation (if at all) and think they are safe. They don't take into account that exact time of the year when you hold a staff in the correct location in the map room to locate the Well of Souls where the light will stream in at exactly the right angle to the lens on the camera to melt the internal senor. Maybe feng shui is proven correct by orienting your front door to the north so your doorbell doesn't face the sun?

boromi 3y ago

Came here to make the same comment. It seems like we are going to be waiting a while for video.

malfist 3y ago

Probably the same reason video is always hard, there's 7 million codecs. Might also be privacy

brigade 3y ago
I seriously doubt there’s a single camera supporting Apple/Google/Amazon integration that doesn’t support H.264 plus AAC
- supergeek133 3y ago
  Even between Google and Amazon you have different streaming support (Amazon is RTSPS, Google is WebRTC)
throw0101a 3y ago
> Probably the same reason video is always hard, there's 7 million codecs. ONVIF has specifications/profiles for management, functionality, and codecs (S and T): * https://www.onvif.org/profiles-add-ons-specifications/ https://www.onvif.org/profiles-add-ons-specifications/ * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ONVIF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ONVIF
- tw04 3y ago
  Sure but none of it seems to work for battery powered cameras which is a giant missing piece.
  - maven29 3y ago
    https://github.com/OpenIPC/firmware https://github.com/OpenIPC/firmware You can get onvif-compliant firmware for some of those, but battery-powered operation cannot be expected to remain practical, given what onvif focuses on.

wil421 3y ago

Does Homebridge not have a plug in for Nest? The one for Unifi cameras is just ok and takes forever to load an image. The doorbell notification is better than the camera experience.

adocomplete 3y ago
It does, but it is pretty bad. Loads very slowly. Randomly disconnects. Just overall a janky experience.
rcdemski 3y ago
For Unifi cameras I switched from Homebridge to Scrypted. The streams load near instant when on the same network. All around a much more polished experience.
- ancorevard 3y ago
  I recently just made the opposite switch, from Scrypted to Homebridge. Just less maintenance with Homebridge. As long as you have enough memory (Raspberry Pi 4+) it's a great experince.

dheera 3y ago

Also I have no idea why I couldn't pair Matter devices using just my computer. Home Assistant wanted me to use a mobile app to do the pairing. No thanks. I shouldn't need to use a phone at home, phone is for outside, at home I use BIG computers and BIG screens to do everything.

fidotron 3y ago

Probably philosophical differences over the use of CODECs which require patent licensing. The hardware universe looks on these things very differently from the web one.

judge2020 3y ago

Unfortunately the options for HKSV doorbells is fairly limited. The Logitech circle view Doorbell looks like the best candidate but it has a spotty review history, with the biggest complaint being it breaking in direct sunlight. I’m about to buy some cameras and I’m thinking of just buying Nest and using https://scrypted.app https://scrypted.app to bridge to HKSV.

klinquist 3y ago
Aqara makes a HKSV doorbell. The camera is sub-par but it's cheap and works!
dylan604 3y ago
>with the biggest complaint being it breaking in direct sunlight. I feel its pain. I break down in direct sunlight too. Doorbells would definitely be tricky, as I doubt most people know the path of the sun over course of a full year. I'd assume that most people look at the sun at the time of installation (if at all) and think they are safe. They don't take into account that exact time of the year when you hold a staff in the correct location in the map room to locate the Well of Souls where the light will stream in at exactly the right angle to the lens on the camera to melt the internal senor. Maybe feng shui is proven correct by orienting your front door to the north so your doorbell doesn't face the sun?