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I'm not going to lie to anyone, but as someone with a paid off house in an ultra low COL location and a desire to give up? If we ever get a UBI I going going to

by ThrowAway1922A 3y ago

I'm not going to lie to anyone, but as someone with a paid off house in an ultra low COL location and a desire to give up? If we ever get a UBI I going going to say fuck work and live off it. I don't need almost any money to survive month to month and I fucking hate working. Thankfully for society though Canada will never give us such a thing.

olddustytrail 3y ago
Then why don't you save your money and go for FIRE? I mean if you were living on $10k per year you'd only need $250k saved, and if you were living on that on a dev salary it wouldn't take long to save. It's odd how when I mention FIRE there are all sorts of people who say they don't want to "live on lentils" for a bit more freedom, yet when I mention UBI it seems everyone wants to!
- Shaanie 3y ago
  Living on lentils for the hope to not have to work in the future, vs immediately not having to work. FIRE requires dedication for a decade or more, UBI is immediate. I don't see how you can find that odd tbh.
  - olddustytrail 3y ago
    It will be a lot less than a decade if you're happy to live at UBI level of income. If you clear 50k and only need 10k that's just over 5 years. I get your point, it requires some effort, but it's not that much.
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- ThrowAway1922A 3y ago
  >Then why don't you save your money and go for FIRE? Because UBI doesn't exist and you can't predict what life will throw your way. I've seen what can happen to people and without a safety net I continue working out of fear. I need between 15-20kCAD/y to survive, but you never know when that won't be enough anymore. At this point I honestly just hope I can leave enough money to make other's lives easier when I'm gone in a few years. A nice parting gift if you will.
  - olddustytrail 3y ago
    So the reason you don't go for FIRE is because things might go badly and you'd be left in a situation where you had to find a job, with nothing but the big huge chunk of money you'd saved to see you through? As opposed to?
    - ThrowAway1922A 3y ago
      Trying to make sense of the logic of an alcoholic is pointless, so I don't recommend it. I will never FIRE, because I'm afraid of the future. I also don't make nearly as much money as other people in this industry. I only managed to crack 100k CAD this year and I'm on the verge of being laid off for "economic reasons".

olddustytrail 3y ago

Then why don't you save your money and go for FIRE? I mean if you were living on $10k per year you'd only need $250k saved, and if you were living on that on a dev salary it wouldn't take long to save. It's odd how when I mention FIRE there are all sorts of people who say they don't want to "live on lentils" for a bit more freedom, yet when I mention UBI it seems everyone wants to!

Shaanie 3y ago
Living on lentils for the hope to not have to work in the future, vs immediately not having to work. FIRE requires dedication for a decade or more, UBI is immediate. I don't see how you can find that odd tbh.
- olddustytrail 3y ago
  It will be a lot less than a decade if you're happy to live at UBI level of income. If you clear 50k and only need 10k that's just over 5 years. I get your point, it requires some effort, but it's not that much.
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ThrowAway1922A 3y ago
>Then why don't you save your money and go for FIRE? Because UBI doesn't exist and you can't predict what life will throw your way. I've seen what can happen to people and without a safety net I continue working out of fear. I need between 15-20kCAD/y to survive, but you never know when that won't be enough anymore. At this point I honestly just hope I can leave enough money to make other's lives easier when I'm gone in a few years. A nice parting gift if you will.
- olddustytrail 3y ago
  So the reason you don't go for FIRE is because things might go badly and you'd be left in a situation where you had to find a job, with nothing but the big huge chunk of money you'd saved to see you through? As opposed to?
  - ThrowAway1922A 3y ago
    Trying to make sense of the logic of an alcoholic is pointless, so I don't recommend it. I will never FIRE, because I'm afraid of the future. I also don't make nearly as much money as other people in this industry. I only managed to crack 100k CAD this year and I'm on the verge of being laid off for "economic reasons".