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Yahoo announces 2,000 job cuts

• pyre 15y ago
  This is a little meta, but am I the only one that feels a little weird up-voting headlines that are bad news? It sort of feels like I'm saying, "2000 job cuts? +1 That's what I like to see!" Also, it's a little weird to be reading a piece about Yahoo, under a Yahoo domain that talks about Yahoo in the third person (e.g. "Yahoo! today confirmed...", a whole section titled "About Yahoo", etc).
  • RegEx 15y ago
    Don't feel weird, an up-vote is just saying "I find this interesting". Bad news can be interesting, but that doesn't mean you like bad news.
  • pagekalisedown 15y ago
    I get that feeling too on Facebook (I don't "like" bad news). But this is HN.
    • riffraff 15y ago
      actually, facebook changes the "like" text for shared news (I forgot what it depends on, maybe the url not being a fb one) to something like "recommend". I remember being really surprised until I was pointed out that you don't want to "like" some of the news.
      • untog 15y ago
        I believe that is set in the metadata of the original article. I may be wrong, though.
        • SquareWheel 15y ago
          Yes, it's an option when installing the like button. Along with "show faces", color scheme, etc. https://developers.facebook.com/docs/reference/plugins/like/ https://developers.facebook.com/docs/reference/plugins/like/
      • CompiledCode 15y ago
        It still feels weird, even with "Recommend." "Tornadoes destroy trailer parks, strip malls in Texas" - Recommended by 241 people
        • xp84 15y ago
          "A++ Tornado, Would destroy again!"
  • tocomment 15y ago
    layoffs for programmers are usually good news. It means a dying company is freeing up those resources to go towards better uses. E.g., more start-ups etc.
    • freehunter 15y ago
      With a company like Yahoo, you can bet their programmers learned a lot about coding, maintaining, user/management expectations, and internal politics. While losing your job sucks, those skills transition very well anywhere you go. If you're a bad programmer and you didn't learn how to be a better programmer at Yahoo, you're going to be in a world of hurt. If you were at least decent and learned what you could, you might be in a better position to negotiate with a new company, or, like you said, start your own project. Out-of-work programmers are only at a disadvantage (respective to other industries) if their true title would be more like "COBOL coder". A semi truck driver only struggles to find work if he drove nothing but an automatic for his whole life.
  • aw3c2 15y ago
    You show the problem with these voting systems. One is inclined to up-/downvote things based on if one likes what is there, not if it is worthy being discussed/shared/read.
  • SquareWheel 15y ago
    Look at it more as "I recommend this story" than "I like this story".
  • pacaro 15y ago
    Don't think of it as 2000 job cuts, think of it as 2000 prisoners set free. Inertia can be a difficult force to combat when working for a large company. From personal experience, being layer off, or having a project cancelled, is the ultimate incentive to find something better. Of course this is stressful, and no severance package makes much difference to the stress of a real human being with responsibilities and bills to pay, but I do believe that the upside is significantly bigger than the downside
    • xp84 15y ago
      are you saying Y! is not paying severance or just speaking about "no severance" situations in general?
    • camiller 15y ago
      It's only stressful if you let it be. When I was lay'ed off from a previous position (with 6 months severance) it was the best thing that had happened to me in a long time. I even turned down the first job offer I had, cause I didn't really like how that company wasn't investing in upgrading their infrastructure. Now, my wife's stress level, well that is another discussion.
    • courtewing 15y ago
      I don't think that is a fair assessment of the situation. While some people may be in a position where getting laid off from their job is a welcomed incentive to pursue bigger and better things, there are also those people that rely on that steady income to pay their bills and keep their families clothed, fed, educated, and healthy. I also want to say, although I don't mean to imply that this was your personal assumption, that not every person working for a technical company in the valley is a risk taking entrepreneur. Some people just like to program.
      • pacaro 15y ago
        I agree, each of the 2000 is an individual human with their own narrative. The worst mistake management can make is to forget that humanity.
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  • ImprovedSilence 15y ago
    It's not about whether or not you like the news, or if you agree with it. It's about adding value as a story relevant to HN, with the possibility of insightful conversation. I say upvote away! You're line of thinking is why too many people's insightful comments are downvoted. Purely out of disagreement, or "I don't like that idea". Really that's the biggest problem I find on HN.
  • sad_panda 15y ago
    Well, upvoting a story isn't the same as "like"ing an article.
• etrain 15y ago
  Always sad to hear about that many people losing their jobs - but, at least the technical job market is as strong now as it has been in a decade. With a workforce at the end of last year of >14,000, this is clearly a substantial reduction in headcount, but the company isn't exactly "closing up shop." I'm curious about what areas will be hardest hit by these layoffs. Really good stuff has been coming out of Yahoo research over the last several years, and it would be a shame to see that investment pulled off the table.
• chojeen 15y ago
  Not a good day to be a contractor and the least senior person in your group. If anyone has been through corporate layoffs before, do you know whether they usually target the most senior people (because they're the most highly compensated) or the least senior (because they're easily replaceable)?
  • pagekalisedown 15y ago
    My experience has been that politics (who's friends with whom) plays a lot more into it than competence, pay, or seniority.
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  • VengefulCynic 15y ago
    There are essentially two kinds of layoffs: "We're getting rid of Division X and everyone in it" and "We need to reduce expenses and so we're laying off people." In this case, it sounds like a little bit of each. There are entire companies dedicated to executing (pardon the pun) layoffs "correctly" and there are as many ways to do it as there are managers, but they essentially fall into three categories: cost-based (get rid of the most cost), skills-based (get rid of the people who don't have skill X that we totally need) and performance-based (get rid of the people who suck). Most of what you're talking about sounds cost-based, in which case there's two philosophies: get rid of the most senior people who charge the most (hello, age discrimination lawsuits) and get rid of a lot of junior people whose productivity is lower and expect the senior people to pick up the slack. And yes, I have had the privilege of working in a Fortune 500 company and helping put together a layoff list - worst job of my life.
    • edabobojr 15y ago
      There can also be accounting considerations. Sometimes contractors are the first to go, other times they are last. Carrying a contractor frequently looks much cheaper than carrying an employee.
• jreposa 15y ago
  Any idea if they're laying off software devs? They're still in high demand here in NYC.
  • dpark 15y ago
    Of course they will be. They aren't going to cut exclusively from sales and service engineers.
• xyahoo 15y ago
  Yahoo has over 18,000 employees (and not 14,000). The extra 4,000+ are contractors. This is a scheme that the bureaucrats at Yahoo figured out pretty early: announce layoffs, and then bring the employees back as contractors. "win-win for everyone", they joke. I really, really hate to see people get laid off; But this was a long time coming. As an ex-Yahoo, I hope they cut out the thick layer of bureacracy thats sucking the oxygen out of that place. Ever seen the algae that suffocates a pond? The middle managers there are like that algae. And then there the VPs: at last count Yahoo had over 200 VPs. Really, What do these fuckers do!? If Yahoo can become more engineering-centric, it has a chance. If the middle managers (and VPs) win out, stick a fork in it; theres no hope.
  • danso 15y ago
    Was there a culture at Yahoo that indicates that it would do the unusual: fire middle managers before firing the rank-and-file engineers?
    • xyahoo 15y ago
      The managers always survived layoffs; the engineers, not so much. Has that changed now? probably current Yahoos can tell, but I imagine there a bit busy right now to post on HN.
      • fatcutter 15y ago
        it looks like it might have
  • spoiledtechie 15y ago
    I completely agree with you. Long time coming. I could see this from a mile away.
  • freehunter 15y ago
    During college I worked at a Midwestern regional supermarket, and they were employing similar tactics. No more full-time employees. Full-time implies benefits. Part-time employees will work the same amount for possibly even the same wage, but it costs the company a lot less.
• s_kilk 15y ago
  Random anecdote: A few days ago I was heading to Dublin Airport when I spotted the Yahoo! logo covering the entire face of very large building. First thought: "That's pretty cool", Second Thought: "Wow, those guys are still going?"
  • noahm 15y ago
    And that's why it's going to be hard for them to find success turning themselves around. Even if they came up with some killer new product, a lot of people would never know about it, and a lot of the ones that did would be skeptical because it's yahoo. When I worked there a couple years ago, they were very high on their brand's value. I'm not sure they should be. I think they might have more success launching (or buying) smaller, more self-contained sites with their own brands, similar to what they did with Flickr. (Of course, I have no idea if Flickr is actually a money maker for them.)
  • cpeterso 15y ago
    Yahoo recently retired their famous neon billboard that had been in downtown San Francisco for many, many years. The billboard was ugly, but it was a sad sign of the times when it came down. :\ http://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-57327029-52/san-francisco-to-lose-beloved-yahoo-billboard/ http://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-57327029-52/san-francisco-...
    • xp84 15y ago
      it wasn't ugly :(
      • jfb 15y ago
        It certainly wasn't as ugly as the atrocities that have replaced it.
      • prodigal_erik 15y ago
        We can agree it was objectively very … purple. http://www.thesfegotist.com/editorial/2011/november/16/end-era-yahoo-billboard-comes-down http://www.thesfegotist.com/editorial/2011/november/16/end-e...
• obilgic 15y ago
  Can someone explain "sophomore Computer Science and Business major" (me), why Yahoo's stock is going up with these news? (Currently it is +0.77%) Thanks
  • vaksel 15y ago
    the layoffs were probably factored in already...and they were probably expecting a higher number...so if the number falls below street expectation the stock price goes up
  • krschultz 15y ago
    Lower costs mean higher profits. Lower # of employees gives them greater flexibility, they can hire contractors where they need them and eliminate positions where they don't.
  • smackfu 15y ago
    It's because the fundamental issues causing the layoffs should already be priced into the stock (due to poor earnings reports and such). So layoffs are considered a good response to the fundamental issues and cause a price increase.
  • netcan 15y ago
    Stock price respond to changes, especially unexpected changes (expected ones are mostly priced in) and new information. The short term price increase is not a sign that investors think the company is doing good (or bad) generally. They already have an opinion and it is already priced in. This is ("theoretically") a sign shareholders agree that this is the right thing to do. It's not uncommon for share prices to rise following news of layoffs. Companies don't like to fire. They usually err on the side of not firing (even when necessary). So, this suggests management doing hard, presumably necessary stuff.
• riordan 15y ago
  I don't say this to be snarky, but I will say that this post about yahoo is a link to yahoo's press release portal aggregating third party press releases kind of indicates where they're going. Yahoo News is still the top news site. Yahoo business/finance is still among the strongest financial properties. The good news is that Yahoo's not going anywhere. The bad news is they're not going anywhere.
  • Isofarro 15y ago
    Yahoo have always been into aggregating other news stories into a Yahoo News site (from day one when they syndicated Reuters). Including press releases. It's where they've always been, rather than where they are going.
  • kristianc 15y ago
    Really? Top three stories on Yahoo News UK right now are "Driver survives 200ft truck plunge", "Labrador 'adopts' abandoned duckling" and "Flying car cleared for takeoff" [1] By what metric exactly is Yahoo News still the top news site? [1] http://uk.news.yahoo.com/ http://uk.news.yahoo.com/
    • hyperbovine 15y ago
      http://www.ebizmba.com/articles/news-websites http://www.ebizmba.com/articles/news-websites Take your pick.
    • byrneseyeview 15y ago
      By what metric exactly is Yahoo News still the top news site? ComScore. Yahoo gets an enormous amount of traffic: Alexa also considers Yahoo as a whole the #4 site (behind Google, Facebook, and Yahoo). And Y recently hired a White House correspondent (http://news.yahoo.com/yahoo-hires-first-white-house-correspondent-150334586.html http://news.yahoo.com/yahoo-hires-first-white-house-correspo...) and has made some other fun hires in the reporting space. My friends who work in tech don't visit Yahoo. But my extended family in the Midwest sure does! Full disclosure: I work at Y, but definitely don't speak for Y. If you have ComScore access, you can double-check the "#1" stat I cited.
• anonymousYahoo 15y ago
  Yahoos – Today we are restructuring Yahoo! to give ourselves the opportunity to compete and win in our core business. The changes we’re announcing today will put our customers first, allow us to move fast, and to get stuff done. The outcome of these changes will be a smaller, nimbler, more profitable Yahoo! better equipped to innovate as fast as our customers and our industry require. Over the last 60 days, we’ve fundamentally re-thought every part of our business and we will continue to actively consider all options that allow Yahoo! to put maximum effort where we can succeed. As part of this process, I believe we have to focus to win in a select group of core businesses globally: · Core Media and Communications: Our content, media, and communications experiences must be best in class. That includes getting today’s core properties right and innovating on a next generation of great product experiences across all screens. · Platforms: We must make our core platforms and systems a genuine strength for Yahoo! – platforms that we can really leverage to support our massive scale, drive the deepest personalization, and boost speed to market. · Data: Our massive data sets must become a genuine competitive advantage for Yahoo!. We have to unlock the value in our data to allow us to really understand our 700 million users, encourage and win their engagement and trust, leverage everything they do with us to more fully personalize their experiences, and to give our advertisers the immediate insights they are rightfully demanding. We are intensifying our efforts on our core businesses and redeploying resources to our most urgent priorities. Our goal is to get back to our core purpose – putting our users and advertisers first – and we are moving aggressively to achieve that goal. Unfortunately, reaching that goal requires the tough decision to eliminate jobs, which means losing colleagues and parting with friends. Today, we will begin the process of informing employees about these changes. As part of that effort, approximately 2,000 people will be notified of job elimination or a phased transition. We value our people and for those who will be leaving, we thank you for all you have contributed to Yahoo!. We will treat all of our people with dignity and respect, providing resources to help manage through their transition. Change is never easy. But the time has come to move Yahoo! forward aggressively with increased focus and accountability. Our values have always been about treating all Yahoos with dignity and respect, and today is a day to embrace those values. This is an amazing company with exceptionally talented people and I know we will all do our best to encourage each other through this difficult period of transition. Thompson-Scott.png EDIT: The mail sent to us by our respected CEO Scott Thompson.
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  • dragonquest 15y ago
    Y! News and Y! Autos are pretty near (if not) the top of their segments. Mail also has the highest number of registered users. Flickr is a steady revenue stream, and to a lesser extent so is their webhosting package which is now paid only.
    • wildmXranat 15y ago
      Yep, their mail is pretty damn good.
• carguy1983 15y ago
  HN readers should see this as an opportunity to hire experienced, qualified developers, systems engineers, and marketing people. Possibly for salaries lower than what otherwise would be the norm, especially in non-Bay Area markets.
  • Lascar 15y ago
    "Qualified developers" ? You must be kidding, I worked at yahoo a few years. It is very true that I have met a few outstanding engineers over there, however, the average engineering skill level right there was the lowest I have ever seen.
• zippie 15y ago
  Perhaps the crux of the issue are the problems PG observed at Yahoo! over a decade ago are still an issue today. As long as PG's observations hold true I think Y! will have a difficult time turning itself around. PG's canonical article about Y!: http://www.paulgraham.com/yahoo.html http://www.paulgraham.com/yahoo.html
• lkrubner 15y ago
  I am frustrated to see a great company get destroyed like this. Scott Thompson, CEO of Yahoo! says: "We are intensifying our efforts on our core businesses and redeploying resources to our most urgent priorities. " In the background, unstated but assumed, is the theory of business "core competence". I believe the phrase was invented by by C.K. Prahalad and Gary Hamel in this May, 1990 issue of the Harvard Business Review: http://hbr.org/1990/05/the-core-competence-of-the-corporation/ar/1 http://hbr.org/1990/05/the-core-competence-of-the-corporatio... Sometimes a great essay gets badly misinterpreted. Since that time, there have been many, many books that have developed this idea. See "Strategic Management and Core Competencies: Theory and Application" by Anders Drejer. Inspirational for this concept was what Jack Welch argued for while he was CEO of GE, during the 80s and 90s: the company must be in the #1 or #2 spot in any industry, otherwise they will leave that industry. This is taught to MBAs. I have the sense that most of them draw this lesson: shrink the company down and focus on whatever currently works. My concern is that this frequently means focusing on what works in the short-term, without much thinking about where growth will come from over the long-term. The original essay by C.K. Prahalad and Gary Hamel can be interpreted in another way. This sentence sounds like it is describing Amazon.com, constantly inventing new services: "A few companies have proven themselves adept at inventing new markets, quickly entering emerging markets, and dramatically shifting patterns of customer choice in established markets." When CEOs have no idea what a company should do in the long-term, they claim that the company is going to focus "our efforts on our core businesses". There is absolutely no hope for a company that follows that strategy. Especially in technology, where things change quickly, one needs to be inventing the new, new thing, or one is dead.
  • cpeterso 15y ago
    I wonder what Jack Welch would do if he became CEO of Yahoo. Or what would Steve Jobs have done? Jobs was a strong proponent of both "cut the crap" and "invent the future" product management.
    • gcb 15y ago
      jobs would cut the email export tools imap/pop access and start charging for every account. now, back on topic, there's no silver bullet for anything. a company should be in the #1 and #2 of any market and while at there, try to invent new markets to keep being the #1 or #2 at something in the long run.
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• Tossrock 15y ago
  Well, I just lost one coworker and my boss, both of whom were good people and good workers. I think this seals my decision to move on; I only really came to work here because I did internships and felt like I owed it to my boss to put in a year or two... but if she's gone, then I've got no reason to stay. Anyone looking to hire in the Bay? edit: make that two coworkers
  • jrockway 15y ago
    Anyone looking to hire in the Bay? Any interest in Google? If so, feel free to send your resume in my direction, jrockway AT google.com. (Also good if you look at google.com/jobs and list a few that interest you.)
  • xp84 15y ago
    My company is hiring. send me your résumé. deliciouscake (at) msn.com -- i'll send you back our list of openings and refer you if you're a good fit. I'm not a recruiter, just an engineer, so i won't be giving out your email or giving you the hard sell or anything.
  • arupchak 15y ago
    We're hiring at Netflix for all types of positions. We have some ex-Yahoo folks that are doing really well here. If you are interested, just shoot me an email (in profile) with what kinds of roles you are interested in, and I'll get you over to the right people.
  • earl 15y ago
    Anyone looking to hire in the Bay? Are you kidding me? Easier to make a (short) list of who isn't hiring in the bay right now. If you want to work on hadoop / clusters / ad tech / rtb, send email to ehathaway at quantcast and I'll send your resume to our internal recruiters. I am, btw, an engineer, so feel free to ask any question that isn't directly covered by my nda and I'll answer or tell you I can't.
    • sounds 15y ago
      earl's profile page does this right: his email is in his "about" section. Since this will probably stay at the top of the "looking for work" comments, here's a quick note - Please put your email info in the "about" section of your user profile. * Unless you're like me, and don't want to publicize your email.
• neya 15y ago
  Well, Expected.
• sriramk 15y ago
  I'm an ex-Yahoo. I have friends there and have sympathy for how hard today must be. But I strongly think this is the right move for the company. They had way too many people, more than what they need/afford and were the cause of much overhead. Of course, it all depends on whether they're laying off the right projects/people.
• plinkplonk 15y ago
  The CEO, Scott Thompson is apparently leaning on a group of management consultants from Boston Consulting Group to come up with a turnaround plan and these firings are apparently the result. Do CEOs really ask outsiders for ideas on how to run/turn around a company? I am in the wrong profession! I wouldn't mind dispensing advice on how to do things I have no experience in doing, all the while pulling in 300+ $ an hour. Somehow I can't visualize (say) Steve Jobs outsourcing thinking and decision making. The closest thing I've seen in software is a couple of instances of bringing in agile methodology consultant/book author types to save failing projects. Those didn't work out well either.
  • gcb 15y ago
    define "apparently". i'm honestly curious
    • plinkplonk 15y ago
      "define "apparently". i'm honestly curious " Apparently: dictionary meaning = apparently [əˈpærəntlɪ əˈpɛər-] adv (sentence modifier) it appears that; as far as one knows; seemingly Kara Swisher reported at http://allthingsd.com/20120330/yahoo-layoffs-set-to-begin-next-week-followed-by-restructuring-the-week-after/ http://allthingsd.com/20120330/yahoo-layoffs-set-to-begin-ne... that "Thompson, along with consultants he has hired from the Boston Consulting Group, presented the possible plan in front of Yahoo’s senior execs on Tuesday. " Lacy from Pando "We’ve heard that Thompson has spent most of his tenure thus far holed up in the executive suite with Boston Consulting Group. " So there have been some reports but I don't work at Yahoo and haven't seen this with my own eyes. Hence "apparently". Did that help satisfy your 'honest curiosity'?
      • gcb 15y ago
        ah, from allthingsd. thanks.
  • rxin 15y ago
    IBM was turned around by a formater McKinsey consultant, Louis Gerstner.
• bickfordb 15y ago
  Savings of $375M annually would imply an average of $187500/ employee. Does this seem high to anyone else? I can't imagine all of these employees are cream of the crop engineers/managers.
  • Tossrock 15y ago
    An employee costs more than their salary; there's health insurance/benefits, payroll tax, IT+support costs, etc.
  • aaronblohowiak 15y ago
    that's fully loaded costs, which are much, much higher than salary
  • spullara 15y ago
    In addition to the fully loaded costs, Yahoo also pays higher salaries than most companies in SV.
• raganwald 15y ago
  Gruber nailed it: “This rings a bell, circa 2008” the steps we are taking are not easy for us as a company, but as we become more fit as an organization, decision-making will be faster and it will be easier for us all to get more done and stay focused on our strategy.—Jerry Yang http://allthingsd.com/20081021/jerry-yangs-complete-memo-to-the-yahoo-troops-about-layoffs/ http://allthingsd.com/20081021/jerry-yangs-complete-memo-to-...
  • Isofarro 15y ago
    that was the "no sacred cows" themed layoff, IIRC.
• Lascar 15y ago
  Dear Yahoos, you might have been let go, but you should be proud: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh4jvDsNtEE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh4jvDsNtEE
• dmfdmf 15y ago
  I hope they fired the marketing experts who made the decision to have flying cars and zooming coke cans in my face and disrupting the home page. What a joke. Yahoo was my home page for years and when they started that non-sense I switched to duckduckgo.com and haven't been back.
• ComputerGuru 15y ago
  It seems that I'm the only one here in the comments with this opinion, but I think it's "not a bad thing" (TM). Yahoo! can still make money. It can still be a "successful" company. What it's not any more is a giant that can be ranked along the likes of Microsoft, Google, and as of very recently and who knows for how long, Facebook. What it needs to do is become much, much slimmer. Focus on its core products, come up with good ways to capitalize on their (still) enormous user base while it lasts, and cut the fat. The fact of the matter is that any company going from one of the biggest giants in the industry to "just another tech company" has tons of fat it needs to shave off. Yes, it sucks that our friends and family are losing their jobs, but from Yahoo!'s point of view, it's really the only solution at this point. They've tried to maintain their "giant" status for a few years now, and a demi-merger with MS would have been their last hope. But it's clear that it's not working and Yahoo! needs to slim down, focus, and then worry about reclaiming its spot in the limelight. You can't rebuild while losing money at the seams. I would argue that to maintain their core identity and products, two thousand employees isn't even close to cutting it. They need to cut anything that takes too much effort/money, employs too many employees, and isn't one of their core strengths. They don't need 14k/18k employees, they need to get rid of eight to ten thousand of those and hire just a hundred or so hard-core R&D idea/deployment heads, and work their way from there. The only thing that Yahoo! can't do is pretend everything is fine and dandy until it's too late to do anything about it. Like it or not, the people (these human beings with families that are about to lose their jobs) that were hired during days of yore are simply not sustainable nor in the company's best interest to keep.
  • earl 15y ago
    Just a quick point: Yahoo is quite profitable [1], just not as profitable as some investors wish. I only see one quarter of the last 20 with negative EPS. http://data.cnbc.com/quotes/YHOO/tab/5 http://data.cnbc.com/quotes/YHOO/tab/5 edit: Also, I see essentially no hope for Y! though I'd love to be wrong. Consider: (1) they should have owned the display rtb market. Instead, internal bickering and stupidity handed it to Google. Y! had the first rtb system (rmx), and screwed up so badly that the current next best rtb system compared to google -- appnexus -- is run by the former rmx cto. This will be the next business that is material to google's earnings and yahoo should have owned it. (2) Scott is talking about ditching rmx and apt. Pray tell, what the hell is he going to run Y's business on, and why is it going to be any cheaper if they're paying for that software from someone else? (3) They gave away search, and decrease market share and search rev every quarter. Golf clap.
• Lascar 15y ago
  How ironic is that ? http://www.youtube.com/user/yahoo?ob=4 http://www.youtube.com/user/yahoo?ob=4
• njharman 15y ago
  I think I might have known at one point, but what does yahoo actually do? I can't think of a product / service. Search? Irellevant is an understatement.
• sad_panda 15y ago
  Sorry guys. :(
• tumanian 15y ago
  Devs are fine. We lost all our QE.
• fatcutter 15y ago
  looks like a lot of fat is being cut out.
• joelmaat 15y ago
  They were trying to hire me right before the news hit. They have a lot of nerve. I am dumbfounded. Good thing retaliatory managers have left me without references and I would bomb out of the process for that reason, rather than for a lack of technical ability. In other news, I have made a string of bad decisions as far as who to work "for." I should do something about that. Perhaps I should let someone (more capable) decide what I do next. Sometimes its good to have no choice but to follow your dream, all else and all other's (face saving, arrogant) bullshit aside.