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Reaping the rewards of climate change that we've been warning about for decades, but no 'I'll just turn the AC up, lol' continues to be the standard american re

by NikkiA 3y ago

Reaping the rewards of climate change that we've been warning about for decades, but no 'I'll just turn the AC up, lol' continues to be the standard american refrain.

codexb 3y ago
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adventured 3y ago
Can you elaborate on how climate change caused this as opposed to it having very obviously been inevitably sourced from typical travel and immigration across decades?
- huytersd 3y ago
  Places are getting warmer and can support diseases that couldn’t survive there before.
  - NikkiA 3y ago
    It's more about the disease vectors' ranges changing, the UK now has tiger mosquitos living here for a large portion of the year, bringing the possibility of dengue, zika, west nile, and other diseases that it carries, which would have been scoffed at as ridiculous 50 years ago.
- derstander 3y ago
  > Can you elaborate on how climate change caused this as opposed to it having very obviously been inevitably sourced from typical travel and immigration across decades? This quote is directly from the article: “ One factor driving the disease’s northward creep may be climate change. “It’s increasing the likelihood sand flies can move further north,” Molyneux says. “They thrive in warm conditions.” Climate modeling suggests this trend will continue.”
  - bell-cot 3y ago
    "One factor ... may be" - when the article doesn't even have good data on a "northward creep" existing - sounds like "rule of cool" speculation to me.
  - derstander 3y ago
    I found a related journal article about sandfly distribution but I am in no position to evaluate it (I’m neither a climatologist nor an entomologist — and I have no desire to play one on the internet). https://journals.plos.org/plosntds/article?id=10.1371/journal.pntd.0002421 https://journals.plos.org/plosntds/article?id=10.1371/journa...
- sp332 3y ago
  Human bodies are normally at temperatures higher than fungi like to grow in. But as climate warms, more fungi are developing tolerance for these temperatures. https://arstechnica.com/health/2023/09/how-climate-change-could-make-fungal-diseases-worse/2/ https://arstechnica.com/health/2023/09/how-climate-change-co...
3seashells 3y ago
"Those sinners get punished for there indulgence, which is mostly hard work and finally get what's coming to them for not bowing to my benevolent dictatorship, sentencing the Bringers of truth to a marginal existence." we do not listen to those who bring no solutions and ignore hard problems for a reason. Human society is unstable under economic stresses and humans are deterministic irrational actors. Oppenheimer conceived a world without war, due to nukes, but here we are. The problem with the carbon energy sources always was that they are" free" aka without gestation cost. But now that changes. Drone warfare makes long distance infra (pipes and ships) unmaintain and unprotectable. Solar will take its place. Oil is finished. So now great prophet, riddle me this. Who to feed to the angry mob in the rust belts of the world? For he died for our sins, a insufferable grumpy grandpa, contributing little to a peaceful transfer into a new state. PS: Other countries had the eczema forever, before it traveled northward. Poor people problems I guess?

by NikkiA 3y ago

Reaping the rewards of climate change that we've been warning about for decades, but no 'I'll just turn the AC up, lol' continues to be the standard american refrain.

codexb 3y ago

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adventured 3y ago

Can you elaborate on how climate change caused this as opposed to it having very obviously been inevitably sourced from typical travel and immigration across decades?

huytersd 3y ago
Places are getting warmer and can support diseases that couldn’t survive there before.
- NikkiA 3y ago
  It's more about the disease vectors' ranges changing, the UK now has tiger mosquitos living here for a large portion of the year, bringing the possibility of dengue, zika, west nile, and other diseases that it carries, which would have been scoffed at as ridiculous 50 years ago.
derstander 3y ago
> Can you elaborate on how climate change caused this as opposed to it having very obviously been inevitably sourced from typical travel and immigration across decades? This quote is directly from the article: “ One factor driving the disease’s northward creep may be climate change. “It’s increasing the likelihood sand flies can move further north,” Molyneux says. “They thrive in warm conditions.” Climate modeling suggests this trend will continue.”
- bell-cot 3y ago
  "One factor ... may be" - when the article doesn't even have good data on a "northward creep" existing - sounds like "rule of cool" speculation to me.
- derstander 3y ago
  I found a related journal article about sandfly distribution but I am in no position to evaluate it (I’m neither a climatologist nor an entomologist — and I have no desire to play one on the internet). https://journals.plos.org/plosntds/article?id=10.1371/journal.pntd.0002421 https://journals.plos.org/plosntds/article?id=10.1371/journa...
sp332 3y ago
Human bodies are normally at temperatures higher than fungi like to grow in. But as climate warms, more fungi are developing tolerance for these temperatures. https://arstechnica.com/health/2023/09/how-climate-change-could-make-fungal-diseases-worse/2/ https://arstechnica.com/health/2023/09/how-climate-change-co...

3seashells 3y ago

"Those sinners get punished for there indulgence, which is mostly hard work and finally get what's coming to them for not bowing to my benevolent dictatorship, sentencing the Bringers of truth to a marginal existence." we do not listen to those who bring no solutions and ignore hard problems for a reason. Human society is unstable under economic stresses and humans are deterministic irrational actors. Oppenheimer conceived a world without war, due to nukes, but here we are. The problem with the carbon energy sources always was that they are" free" aka without gestation cost. But now that changes. Drone warfare makes long distance infra (pipes and ships) unmaintain and unprotectable. Solar will take its place. Oil is finished. So now great prophet, riddle me this. Who to feed to the angry mob in the rust belts of the world? For he died for our sins, a insufferable grumpy grandpa, contributing little to a peaceful transfer into a new state. PS: Other countries had the eczema forever, before it traveled northward. Poor people problems I guess?