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I am so happy to see this taking off. It’s objectively so much better than CCS or CHAdeMO. I’ve also heard of people with mobility issues having trouble with t

by api 3y ago

I am so happy to see this taking off. It’s objectively so much better than CCS or CHAdeMO. I’ve also heard of people with mobility issues having trouble with the heavy chunky plugs on those standards but using NACS (aka Tesla) just fine. Why do those others have such absurdly chonky plugs anyway?

itishappy 3y ago
They added features over time. Tesla took a black-box approach. The CCS connectors were designed around a legacy AC charging connector at the top, then added the two DC ports below. Tesla said "let's use the same for both" and then had to design an internal circuit to separate them. Technology Connections did an overview of this recently where I'm getting most of my info. It's a 45m video, but the history is only a few minutes, and I've included a timestamp in the link below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJOfyMCEzjQ&t=162s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJOfyMCEzjQ&t=162s Edit: Whoops, wrong time. Fixed.
rootusrootus 3y ago
I'm curious what the development process was behind standards like J1772, which is the basis for CCS type 1. It's not a great connector to begin with. I've had both Teslas and J1772 EVs for a number of years. Plugging in the J1772 cars is always a little game to get the connector lined up and at the right angle to connect to the car. Sometimes it takes 5 or 10 extra seconds to get it just right. But the Tesla connector just slides right in and orients itself perfectly with no effort. Push the button on the handle, door opens, insert connector -- 2 seconds every time, reliably.
- api 3y ago
  I have a hypothesis that the auto industry didn't believe EVs would catch on until relatively recently, so they half-assed things like the charging infrastructure thinking they were just checking a box to make the government and a few Tesla fanboy weirdos happy. The internal combustion engine isn't just the thing that powers cars. In that industry it's practically a religious object. If it doesn't go vroom vroom it's not a car and your penis will fall off... or at least I think there's a whole generation of people in that field who feel that way. The fact that EVs have tipped and the transition is not going away is just now starting to sink in.

by api 3y ago

itishappy 3y ago

They added features over time. Tesla took a black-box approach. The CCS connectors were designed around a legacy AC charging connector at the top, then added the two DC ports below. Tesla said "let's use the same for both" and then had to design an internal circuit to separate them. Technology Connections did an overview of this recently where I'm getting most of my info. It's a 45m video, but the history is only a few minutes, and I've included a timestamp in the link below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJOfyMCEzjQ&t=162s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJOfyMCEzjQ&t=162s Edit: Whoops, wrong time. Fixed.

rootusrootus 3y ago

I'm curious what the development process was behind standards like J1772, which is the basis for CCS type 1. It's not a great connector to begin with. I've had both Teslas and J1772 EVs for a number of years. Plugging in the J1772 cars is always a little game to get the connector lined up and at the right angle to connect to the car. Sometimes it takes 5 or 10 extra seconds to get it just right. But the Tesla connector just slides right in and orients itself perfectly with no effort. Push the button on the handle, door opens, insert connector -- 2 seconds every time, reliably.

api 3y ago
I have a hypothesis that the auto industry didn't believe EVs would catch on until relatively recently, so they half-assed things like the charging infrastructure thinking they were just checking a box to make the government and a few Tesla fanboy weirdos happy. The internal combustion engine isn't just the thing that powers cars. In that industry it's practically a religious object. If it doesn't go vroom vroom it's not a car and your penis will fall off... or at least I think there's a whole generation of people in that field who feel that way. The fact that EVs have tipped and the transition is not going away is just now starting to sink in.