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Instead of YouTube, use Invidious; Instead of subscribing to channels, use RSS

67 points by behnamoh 3y ago

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ChrisArchitect 3y ago
If not already, this could be shared as a comment on the large Invidious thread from 3 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37900458 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37900458
t0bia_s 3y ago
Or just use Freetube. https://freetubeapp.io/ https://freetubeapp.io/ And no, it's not a porn provider.
nathants 3y ago
youtube has native rss support.
jszymborski 3y ago
This is fine and dandy, and it's what I've done for a long while, but Google/Alphabet can and will pull the plug on it eventually. Folks, it really is time for us to either adopt a federated alternative like PeerTube, or improve it until it becomes a suitable alternative.
- kevincox 3y ago
  That's the nice thing about subscribing via RSS. You can seamlessly follow different creators no matter what platform they are on. This greatly reduces platform lock-in and over time makes it feasible for creators to move off of YouTube. If everyone just uses YouTube subscriptions and the YouTube homepage (or push notifications) then they are not easily able to start following people publishing on other platforms.
- lolinder 3y ago
  Full federation would be nice, but just using alternative, smaller platforms makes a huge difference in reducing YouTube's stranglehold. About half the people I follow are on Nebula, which is a surprisingly solid platform that provides a lot of good redundancy for educational YouTubers. As an added bonus, creators remove sponsorships from Nebula videos, so unlike YouTube Premium it really is completely ad free.
  - grepfru_it 3y ago
    >but just using alternative, smaller platforms makes a huge difference this does not scale. bandwidth costs will crush small platforms and they will eventually be absorbed into bigger ones.. the only exit is closure (especially from a rouge patent troll or DMCA lawsuit) or buyout. see justin.tv as an example edit: all costs will crush you. you need a mod team to prevent runaway piracy and child porn. you need a security team to prevent attacks. you need a network team to try to minimize bandwidth loss. video delivery is not a cheap game, so i'm not really sure how free platforms will survive
    - lolinder 3y ago
      Does everything need to scale? I personally quite enjoyed the web back in the day where most communities were running on tiny boxes managed by a single hobbyist. > you need a mod team to prevent runaway piracy and child porn. Nebula doesn't because it's an invite-only platform. The creators are all part of an old-school social network and can vouch for each other. > video delivery is not a cheap game, so i'm not really sure how free platforms will survive So don't be a free platform! Nebula is doing just fine at serving me and many like me. Most of the creators I follow make a solid living on Patreon, with Nebula and YouTube ads just layered on top. The idea that every app must be free and must scale to ~every human being on the planet is killing the internet.
      - ardfard 3y ago
        > Does everything need to scale? I personally quite enjoyed the web back in the day where most communities were running on tiny boxes managed by a single hobbyist. It's just not only matter of scale. I follow content creator that posted some of his content on his personal website. but man, the user experience is night and day compared to youtube. loading video is slow, cant fast-forward before hit buffering, also no content discovery either. Paying for Youtube premium is no-brainer because i just get more value of it compared to even Netflix.
- mvdtnz 3y ago
  You're welcome to go to Peertube right now, nothing stopping you. Content creators won't follow you, of course, because they (rightfully) want to get paid for their work. How do you plan to compensate content creators on Peertube?
  - renegat0x0 3y ago
    I think creators lived in a sweet spot. I might be a minority, but I would rather stopa watching YouTubers. It is not that their content is worth my money. It may be worth my time, but not necessarily money.
  - myaccountonhn 3y ago
    Nothing stops you from having ads in the video directly.
  - prox 3y ago
    It’s surprising how little people pay for content. Not saying they are obligated to, but take the instance of a channel you really like, quality content. When you see the stats you can see sometimes a 1000x difference in paying customers (take for instance a youtuber with a patreon or YTsubscription) So you really like a channel, and I am assuming not all are poor, that is a big difference. I wonder what the friction is here. (As someone who is very aware of the effort some creators put in)
  - BuyMyBitcoins 3y ago
    >” How do you plan to compensate content creators on Peertube?” This task falls on the creators, not the viewers. There are already several options such as sponsorship, merchandise, patreon, asking for donations, et cetera.
    - phantomathkg 3y ago
      But for sponsorship, aren't people using sponsorblock as well?
    - mvdtnz 3y ago
      Other options include Youtube Premium and Youtube ad views, both of which turn out to be far more reliable sources of income.
- ChatGTP 3y ago
  How is Peertube moderated ? I’d prefer not to have to watch gore and child porn occasionally to self moderate. This is the hidden cost of all these platforms, the moderators have PTSD from this shit.
- nirui 3y ago
  My thoughts are the same. Take look what happened on Reddit and Twitter, where many people were trying to improve the platform by developing apps for them, then the platform steps in and slammed it all down (probably due to conflict of interest). My conclusion is that contributing to the "daemons" might just not be worth it for both the devs and the users. Google/YouTube is a relatively good actor during the entire shenanigans, but they certainly got a high enough chair to bare the lost of few users. And if you look the current financial and employment situation, they and their employees/C*Os might even got motivations too. The environment has changed, maybe it's time to go back to the fundamentals, and maybe something new and better can come out of it.
uptown 3y ago
What’s a kid-friendly way to do this on an AppleTV?
- haunter 3y ago
  Yattee https://github.com/yattee/yattee https://github.com/yattee/yattee https://apps.apple.com/us/app/yattee/id1595136629 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/yattee/id1595136629 You can use it both with Piped or Invidious https://np.reddit.com/r/Yattee/comments/13d3lj7/how_to_set_u https://np.reddit.com/r/Yattee/comments/13d3lj7/how_to_set_u... Works perfectly on both my iPhone and apple TV. No jailbreaking nothing needed.
- judge2020 3y ago
  There is educational, fun kid-friendly programming available from other sources. If there are specific YT channels that are a must-watch, you can do this with only the channels you know have safe content.
- shiroiuma 3y ago
  1. Post ad on Craiglist/FBMarketplace/etc. for AppleTV. 2. Sell TV, deliver to buyer, collect cash. 3. Buy a GoogleTV, and set it up. 4. Install app (instructions easily available elsewhere; you can't use the Play Store) 5. Enjoy!
walmart 3y ago
If the linked vids on the default Invidious page show > Can't load the video on this Invidious instance. YouTube is currently trying to block Invidious instances. Click here for more info about the issue. switching Invidious instance seems to fix the problem.
- Animats 3y ago
  Ref for that: https://github.com/iv-org/invidious/issues/3822 https://github.com/iv-org/invidious/issues/3822 Who's winning, Invidious or Youtube? I'm something of a fan of PeerTube for distribution, but that's used by so few people that my tech demo graphics videos with a few hundred views are at the top of the ratings. PeerTube is an OK distribution system, but a terrible discovery system. In the unlikely event that RSS for videos got some traction, it might be useful.
silenced_trope 3y ago
I posted this comment as a question on the last thread about Invidious and YouTube blocking ads but didn't get a response. I'd like to try it but for now when I get the blocker I open the same video in an incognito window. For which I have a different extension that I can just click on and it opens right away. > I just installed, then uninstalled, the Chrome (Brave) extension that is supposed to redirect videos to some invidious instance. > I use Brave and am now seeing the "sorry you can't watch YouTube" anymore sign because Brave blocks ads. > I thought installing the extension from the website would just redirect whatever video I clicked on to the mirrored video on an Invidious instance, is that not the case? Is my understanding wrong? I already uninstalled it but would give it another go if it "just works". I don't really want to care about this or that "instance". The promise of the extension (from what I can tell) is to just automatically do it?
perceptronas 3y ago
I appreciate "alternatives" popping up. I am not sure if its due new Youtube CEO, but it is getting very hostile recently. One example I can share – I usually did open youtube.com and see suggested videos list. Now instead of that I get 'dark pattern' information about how I don't share my history – therefore youtube cannot suggest me anything. I don't know, if it can't, why not show my subscriptions then? I still pay for premium, but I barely use it these days. Might state the obvious, its only because they have monopoly that they can get away with this hostility to its users.
rjzzleep 3y ago
Does someone know why there is only one iOS with not so optimal UI/UX? On Android both clipious and libretube are really good piped/invidious apps with very active development and good UI. Another thing I noticed is that sometimes videos just don't work. And then you spend time search for an instance where things work. Why is that?
- lolinder 3y ago
  iOS is always behind when it comes to FOSS apps. The platform is just not FOSS-friendly—the developer needs a Mac in order to even build for it, and in order to host on the app store they have to pay a yearly fee, never mind that the app has no revenue stream. Also, unlike Android, there can be no alternate app stores, so where F-Droid can exist to host apps that Google disapproves of, if Apple doesn't like it there's no good way to distribute.
- judge2020 3y ago
  Using a third-party YouTube client is against the YouTube Terms of Service, and YouTube does not offer official APIs for watching video content. Thus, Apple helps Google by proactively blocking apps that are a "YouTube Alternative Player" or "Free YouTube [/Music]" since it's a violation of 5.2.2 of the App Store Review Guidelines: > 5.2.2 Third-Party Sites/Services: If your app uses, accesses, monetizes access to, or displays content from a third-party service, ensure that you are specifically permitted to do so under the service’s terms of use. Authorization must be provided upon request. https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#intellectual-property https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#int...
  - rjzzleep 3y ago
    I see, I had a feeling that was the case, but I never knew the exact policy. Thank you. Here's me hoping that sideloading with one day be a first class citizen.
- KETHERCORTEX 3y ago
  I suspect it's because the people, who want more control over the usage of the services they use, usually see Android as a system that allows higher degree of that control. And because of that, iOS may simply have less people who is interested.
givemeethekeys 3y ago
I wouldn't block ads on youtube if they weren't so incredibly invasive and frequent. They've had banner ads on video on many satellite TV channels in India for 30 years now (maybe longer). The ads are creatively animated to draw attention without being intrusive.
- judge2020 3y ago
  YouTube's ads are only valuable to advertisers because they have the viewer's attention for those 5 or 15 seconds. Banner ads don't pay the bills at YouTube's scale.
  - Dylan16807 3y ago
    Bills need to be paid, but delivering 1080p video gets cheaper every year.
    - judge2020 3y ago
      Delivering isn't expensive, but storing is. Estimates from 2019 were that YouTube ingests 500 hours of video every minute[0] - if we assume the most conservative bitrate for 1080p video, 4mbps, that's 900 gigabytes of video ingested every minute and 1.3PB every day - and a lot of videos are higher bitrate at 1080p or offer 1440p/4k options as well. Even if they're getting the best deal on Enterprise drives ever at $0.009/gb or $12k/day in storage costs, that's still half an exabyte a year, and with real-world storage sizes including 4k video, chances are they were already buying over 1 exabyte of storage every year in 2019 and are doing a lot more today. 0: https://www.tubefilter.com/2019/05/07/number-hours-video-uploaded-to-youtube-per-minute/ https://www.tubefilter.com/2019/05/07/number-hours-video-upl...
      - Dylan16807 3y ago
        I should have been more clear that I was talking about the ability for big video sites in general to exist, not youtube in particular. A big video site doesn't have to store every random non-watched video forever for free.
meatjuice 3y ago
I wonder if those community instances are trustable. Self-hosting invidious might solve the privacy concerns though.
- askiiart 3y ago
  I can certainly understand the concerns, and I host my own Invidious instance for such reasons (and because many public instances have some features disabled, like video downloads), but I'd argue that 99.99% of the time I'd trust any random Invidious instance over YouTube/Google directly.
altdataseller 3y ago
I wish he/she didn’t tell everyone about RSS feeds for YouTube channels. I feel like Google will eventually get rid of it because it was an accidental feature
- happytoexplain 3y ago
  I will be devastated if RSS for YouTube channels ever goes away. I consume a lot of YouTube, all of it explicit (as opposed to just browsing or clicking on suggestions). It would be impossible with email or notifications.
ayakang31415 3y ago
You can use whatever you want as long as you are happy with it. People will use other services if they are going to be happy with it. But are YouTube users going to be happy with alternatives that many people mention? Content creators will not bother moving onto other platforms as it seems at the moment.
eska 3y ago
1. Pick an instance near you 2. Search a channel, press the RSS button at the top 3. Follow favorite youtubers in your feed, together with news and blogs. This helped me a lot with distractions on youtube and the fact that the official youtube website is quite broken.
Modified3019 3y ago
Rather than trying to fight a Pyrrhic arms race with with adblockers that will eventually outright require blocking anyone not paying, if youtube simply put a cumulative measure of what your usage has cost them at the top, I bet a lot of people would be more open to paying. Offering a way to throw a dollar at various creators and have it guaranteed to get to them in full would also be something I'd find highly compelling. And it would give those creators vastly more money than if I sat down and watched multiple thousands of 5-15 minute videos, ads and all. Also demonetizing creators because they said "kill" instead of "unalive" is fucking stupid, and makes youtube an adversary, not something I want to give money to.

67 points by behnamoh 3y ago

deleted 3y ago

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If not already, this could be shared as a comment on the large Invidious thread from 3 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37900458 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37900458

t0bia_s 3y ago

Or just use Freetube. https://freetubeapp.io/ https://freetubeapp.io/ And no, it's not a porn provider.

nathants 3y ago

youtube has native rss support.

jszymborski 3y ago

This is fine and dandy, and it's what I've done for a long while, but Google/Alphabet can and will pull the plug on it eventually. Folks, it really is time for us to either adopt a federated alternative like PeerTube, or improve it until it becomes a suitable alternative.

kevincox 3y ago
That's the nice thing about subscribing via RSS. You can seamlessly follow different creators no matter what platform they are on. This greatly reduces platform lock-in and over time makes it feasible for creators to move off of YouTube. If everyone just uses YouTube subscriptions and the YouTube homepage (or push notifications) then they are not easily able to start following people publishing on other platforms.
lolinder 3y ago
Full federation would be nice, but just using alternative, smaller platforms makes a huge difference in reducing YouTube's stranglehold. About half the people I follow are on Nebula, which is a surprisingly solid platform that provides a lot of good redundancy for educational YouTubers. As an added bonus, creators remove sponsorships from Nebula videos, so unlike YouTube Premium it really is completely ad free.
- grepfru_it 3y ago
  >but just using alternative, smaller platforms makes a huge difference this does not scale. bandwidth costs will crush small platforms and they will eventually be absorbed into bigger ones.. the only exit is closure (especially from a rouge patent troll or DMCA lawsuit) or buyout. see justin.tv as an example edit: all costs will crush you. you need a mod team to prevent runaway piracy and child porn. you need a security team to prevent attacks. you need a network team to try to minimize bandwidth loss. video delivery is not a cheap game, so i'm not really sure how free platforms will survive
  - lolinder 3y ago
    Does everything need to scale? I personally quite enjoyed the web back in the day where most communities were running on tiny boxes managed by a single hobbyist. > you need a mod team to prevent runaway piracy and child porn. Nebula doesn't because it's an invite-only platform. The creators are all part of an old-school social network and can vouch for each other. > video delivery is not a cheap game, so i'm not really sure how free platforms will survive So don't be a free platform! Nebula is doing just fine at serving me and many like me. Most of the creators I follow make a solid living on Patreon, with Nebula and YouTube ads just layered on top. The idea that every app must be free and must scale to ~every human being on the planet is killing the internet.
    - ardfard 3y ago
      > Does everything need to scale? I personally quite enjoyed the web back in the day where most communities were running on tiny boxes managed by a single hobbyist. It's just not only matter of scale. I follow content creator that posted some of his content on his personal website. but man, the user experience is night and day compared to youtube. loading video is slow, cant fast-forward before hit buffering, also no content discovery either. Paying for Youtube premium is no-brainer because i just get more value of it compared to even Netflix.
mvdtnz 3y ago
You're welcome to go to Peertube right now, nothing stopping you. Content creators won't follow you, of course, because they (rightfully) want to get paid for their work. How do you plan to compensate content creators on Peertube?
- renegat0x0 3y ago
  I think creators lived in a sweet spot. I might be a minority, but I would rather stopa watching YouTubers. It is not that their content is worth my money. It may be worth my time, but not necessarily money.
- myaccountonhn 3y ago
  Nothing stops you from having ads in the video directly.
- prox 3y ago
  It’s surprising how little people pay for content. Not saying they are obligated to, but take the instance of a channel you really like, quality content. When you see the stats you can see sometimes a 1000x difference in paying customers (take for instance a youtuber with a patreon or YTsubscription) So you really like a channel, and I am assuming not all are poor, that is a big difference. I wonder what the friction is here. (As someone who is very aware of the effort some creators put in)
- BuyMyBitcoins 3y ago
  >” How do you plan to compensate content creators on Peertube?” This task falls on the creators, not the viewers. There are already several options such as sponsorship, merchandise, patreon, asking for donations, et cetera.
  - phantomathkg 3y ago
    But for sponsorship, aren't people using sponsorblock as well?
  - mvdtnz 3y ago
    Other options include Youtube Premium and Youtube ad views, both of which turn out to be far more reliable sources of income.
ChatGTP 3y ago
How is Peertube moderated ? I’d prefer not to have to watch gore and child porn occasionally to self moderate. This is the hidden cost of all these platforms, the moderators have PTSD from this shit.
nirui 3y ago
My thoughts are the same. Take look what happened on Reddit and Twitter, where many people were trying to improve the platform by developing apps for them, then the platform steps in and slammed it all down (probably due to conflict of interest). My conclusion is that contributing to the "daemons" might just not be worth it for both the devs and the users. Google/YouTube is a relatively good actor during the entire shenanigans, but they certainly got a high enough chair to bare the lost of few users. And if you look the current financial and employment situation, they and their employees/C*Os might even got motivations too. The environment has changed, maybe it's time to go back to the fundamentals, and maybe something new and better can come out of it.

uptown 3y ago

What’s a kid-friendly way to do this on an AppleTV?

haunter 3y ago
Yattee https://github.com/yattee/yattee https://github.com/yattee/yattee https://apps.apple.com/us/app/yattee/id1595136629 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/yattee/id1595136629 You can use it both with Piped or Invidious https://np.reddit.com/r/Yattee/comments/13d3lj7/how_to_set_u https://np.reddit.com/r/Yattee/comments/13d3lj7/how_to_set_u... Works perfectly on both my iPhone and apple TV. No jailbreaking nothing needed.
judge2020 3y ago
There is educational, fun kid-friendly programming available from other sources. If there are specific YT channels that are a must-watch, you can do this with only the channels you know have safe content.
shiroiuma 3y ago
1. Post ad on Craiglist/FBMarketplace/etc. for AppleTV. 2. Sell TV, deliver to buyer, collect cash. 3. Buy a GoogleTV, and set it up. 4. Install app (instructions easily available elsewhere; you can't use the Play Store) 5. Enjoy!

walmart 3y ago

If the linked vids on the default Invidious page show > Can't load the video on this Invidious instance. YouTube is currently trying to block Invidious instances. Click here for more info about the issue. switching Invidious instance seems to fix the problem.

Animats 3y ago
Ref for that: https://github.com/iv-org/invidious/issues/3822 https://github.com/iv-org/invidious/issues/3822 Who's winning, Invidious or Youtube? I'm something of a fan of PeerTube for distribution, but that's used by so few people that my tech demo graphics videos with a few hundred views are at the top of the ratings. PeerTube is an OK distribution system, but a terrible discovery system. In the unlikely event that RSS for videos got some traction, it might be useful.

silenced_trope 3y ago

I posted this comment as a question on the last thread about Invidious and YouTube blocking ads but didn't get a response. I'd like to try it but for now when I get the blocker I open the same video in an incognito window. For which I have a different extension that I can just click on and it opens right away. > I just installed, then uninstalled, the Chrome (Brave) extension that is supposed to redirect videos to some invidious instance. > I use Brave and am now seeing the "sorry you can't watch YouTube" anymore sign because Brave blocks ads. > I thought installing the extension from the website would just redirect whatever video I clicked on to the mirrored video on an Invidious instance, is that not the case? Is my understanding wrong? I already uninstalled it but would give it another go if it "just works". I don't really want to care about this or that "instance". The promise of the extension (from what I can tell) is to just automatically do it?

perceptronas 3y ago

I appreciate "alternatives" popping up. I am not sure if its due new Youtube CEO, but it is getting very hostile recently. One example I can share – I usually did open youtube.com and see suggested videos list. Now instead of that I get 'dark pattern' information about how I don't share my history – therefore youtube cannot suggest me anything. I don't know, if it can't, why not show my subscriptions then? I still pay for premium, but I barely use it these days. Might state the obvious, its only because they have monopoly that they can get away with this hostility to its users.

rjzzleep 3y ago

Does someone know why there is only one iOS with not so optimal UI/UX? On Android both clipious and libretube are really good piped/invidious apps with very active development and good UI. Another thing I noticed is that sometimes videos just don't work. And then you spend time search for an instance where things work. Why is that?

lolinder 3y ago
iOS is always behind when it comes to FOSS apps. The platform is just not FOSS-friendly—the developer needs a Mac in order to even build for it, and in order to host on the app store they have to pay a yearly fee, never mind that the app has no revenue stream. Also, unlike Android, there can be no alternate app stores, so where F-Droid can exist to host apps that Google disapproves of, if Apple doesn't like it there's no good way to distribute.
judge2020 3y ago
Using a third-party YouTube client is against the YouTube Terms of Service, and YouTube does not offer official APIs for watching video content. Thus, Apple helps Google by proactively blocking apps that are a "YouTube Alternative Player" or "Free YouTube [/Music]" since it's a violation of 5.2.2 of the App Store Review Guidelines: > 5.2.2 Third-Party Sites/Services: If your app uses, accesses, monetizes access to, or displays content from a third-party service, ensure that you are specifically permitted to do so under the service’s terms of use. Authorization must be provided upon request. https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#intellectual-property https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#int...
- rjzzleep 3y ago
  I see, I had a feeling that was the case, but I never knew the exact policy. Thank you. Here's me hoping that sideloading with one day be a first class citizen.
KETHERCORTEX 3y ago
I suspect it's because the people, who want more control over the usage of the services they use, usually see Android as a system that allows higher degree of that control. And because of that, iOS may simply have less people who is interested.

givemeethekeys 3y ago

I wouldn't block ads on youtube if they weren't so incredibly invasive and frequent. They've had banner ads on video on many satellite TV channels in India for 30 years now (maybe longer). The ads are creatively animated to draw attention without being intrusive.

judge2020 3y ago
YouTube's ads are only valuable to advertisers because they have the viewer's attention for those 5 or 15 seconds. Banner ads don't pay the bills at YouTube's scale.
- Dylan16807 3y ago
  Bills need to be paid, but delivering 1080p video gets cheaper every year.
  - judge2020 3y ago
    Delivering isn't expensive, but storing is. Estimates from 2019 were that YouTube ingests 500 hours of video every minute[0] - if we assume the most conservative bitrate for 1080p video, 4mbps, that's 900 gigabytes of video ingested every minute and 1.3PB every day - and a lot of videos are higher bitrate at 1080p or offer 1440p/4k options as well. Even if they're getting the best deal on Enterprise drives ever at $0.009/gb or $12k/day in storage costs, that's still half an exabyte a year, and with real-world storage sizes including 4k video, chances are they were already buying over 1 exabyte of storage every year in 2019 and are doing a lot more today. 0: https://www.tubefilter.com/2019/05/07/number-hours-video-uploaded-to-youtube-per-minute/ https://www.tubefilter.com/2019/05/07/number-hours-video-upl...
    - Dylan16807 3y ago
      I should have been more clear that I was talking about the ability for big video sites in general to exist, not youtube in particular. A big video site doesn't have to store every random non-watched video forever for free.

meatjuice 3y ago

I wonder if those community instances are trustable. Self-hosting invidious might solve the privacy concerns though.

askiiart 3y ago
I can certainly understand the concerns, and I host my own Invidious instance for such reasons (and because many public instances have some features disabled, like video downloads), but I'd argue that 99.99% of the time I'd trust any random Invidious instance over YouTube/Google directly.

altdataseller 3y ago

I wish he/she didn’t tell everyone about RSS feeds for YouTube channels. I feel like Google will eventually get rid of it because it was an accidental feature

happytoexplain 3y ago
I will be devastated if RSS for YouTube channels ever goes away. I consume a lot of YouTube, all of it explicit (as opposed to just browsing or clicking on suggestions). It would be impossible with email or notifications.

ayakang31415 3y ago

You can use whatever you want as long as you are happy with it. People will use other services if they are going to be happy with it. But are YouTube users going to be happy with alternatives that many people mention? Content creators will not bother moving onto other platforms as it seems at the moment.

eska 3y ago

1. Pick an instance near you 2. Search a channel, press the RSS button at the top 3. Follow favorite youtubers in your feed, together with news and blogs. This helped me a lot with distractions on youtube and the fact that the official youtube website is quite broken.

Modified3019 3y ago

Rather than trying to fight a Pyrrhic arms race with with adblockers that will eventually outright require blocking anyone not paying, if youtube simply put a cumulative measure of what your usage has cost them at the top, I bet a lot of people would be more open to paying. Offering a way to throw a dollar at various creators and have it guaranteed to get to them in full would also be something I'd find highly compelling. And it would give those creators vastly more money than if I sat down and watched multiple thousands of 5-15 minute videos, ads and all. Also demonetizing creators because they said "kill" instead of "unalive" is fucking stupid, and makes youtube an adversary, not something I want to give money to.