> You're mischaracterizing what I was talking about I didn't mean to imply you was talking about something else - I tried to make two separate points: 1) I do

> You're mischaracterizing what I was talking about I didn't mean to imply you was talking about something else - I tried to make two separate points: 1) I don't think default passwords are "no problem" 2) This Cisco thing is anyway much worse than that. As for what you bring up: 3) But really, what kind of morons put what should be their internal management network on the fucking internet and don't have TACACS+? Indeed. Sadly 3) doesn't surprise me; it makes both 1 and 2 much worse (1 because the people that give us 3 aren't likely to change the default - even if they could - and with 2 they can't).