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Hang on can I understand your position? As I read it your (biological) mum took a swab of her own mouth and sent it to 23 and me. And you argue she should have

Hang on can I understand your position? As I read it your (biological) mum took a swab of her own mouth and sent it to 23 and me. And you argue she should have asked your permission before doing so because she would be giving them half of your DNA? Honestly I am not sure where I stand on that issue. Or rather it's probably to do with society wide regulation not individual rights ...

talldatethrow 3y ago
It's an interesting issue. If a stranger had asked OPs mom for OPs phone number out of the blue, there are many moms that wouldn't share a PHONE NUMBER without asking the phone number holders permission. But fewer would ask their relatives if it's ok to stick a decent portion of their DNA into a database.
- fshbbdssbbgdd 3y ago
  Wait till they find out that 99% of our genes already got leaked to the public by the Chimpanzees.
  - pbhjpbhj 3y ago
    Or that you can hit a tree up to get 50% of them.
  - ziddoap 3y ago
    This is really dismissive. It should be obvious that, to the OP, the important part is the 1% that is unique, not the 99% which isn't.
- prepend 3y ago
  What if OP lives with their mom and so when the stranger asked mom for her number, she also revealed OP’s. Should mom not be allowed to give out her number. She had it first. Or should mom need to clear every use of her data with her kids because it might affect them. Should OP get mom’s permission before emitting genetic material on a lover because that material is half of mom’s dna? I think this is not a path that can be exactly logiced out, so I stick with “do what you want with your data.”
- dylan604 3y ago
  There are also a lot of moms out there that would give up a phone number without hesitation if not even suggesting the person should have it without being asked.
- therealdrag0 3y ago
  We used to have this thing called a phone book! Imagine the dystopian horror!
  - defrost 3y ago
    Even crazier, phone books where I lived had a Do NOT List arrangement with Telco providers that was actually respected and bulk leaks of DNL numbers | addresses names were almost unheard of. Even stalking LEO ex boyfriends | former husbands mostly left a paper trail if they requested a DNL number.
lazyasciiart 3y ago
Should an identical twin be required to get their twin’s consent? That would be 100% of their DNA. What about their twin’s children?
- stickfigure 3y ago
  No, and there's no moral ambiguity about it. Separate human, separate decisions.
  - eindiran 3y ago
    What is the John Donne quote again? Of course there is moral ambiguity about it. You can live your life pretending your actions don't have consequences for other people, but don't expect people to enjoy living in your wake.
  - lazyasciiart 3y ago
    Not sure why you chose this branch of the topic to share your declaration that the whole idea is nonsense, but ok.
whycome 3y ago
And if their father also did it, 100% would be in there.
- anjel 3y ago
  Except the data is randomized at conception

talldatethrow 3y ago

It's an interesting issue. If a stranger had asked OPs mom for OPs phone number out of the blue, there are many moms that wouldn't share a PHONE NUMBER without asking the phone number holders permission. But fewer would ask their relatives if it's ok to stick a decent portion of their DNA into a database.

fshbbdssbbgdd 3y ago
Wait till they find out that 99% of our genes already got leaked to the public by the Chimpanzees.
- pbhjpbhj 3y ago
  Or that you can hit a tree up to get 50% of them.
- ziddoap 3y ago
  This is really dismissive. It should be obvious that, to the OP, the important part is the 1% that is unique, not the 99% which isn't.
prepend 3y ago
What if OP lives with their mom and so when the stranger asked mom for her number, she also revealed OP’s. Should mom not be allowed to give out her number. She had it first. Or should mom need to clear every use of her data with her kids because it might affect them. Should OP get mom’s permission before emitting genetic material on a lover because that material is half of mom’s dna? I think this is not a path that can be exactly logiced out, so I stick with “do what you want with your data.”
dylan604 3y ago
There are also a lot of moms out there that would give up a phone number without hesitation if not even suggesting the person should have it without being asked.
therealdrag0 3y ago
We used to have this thing called a phone book! Imagine the dystopian horror!
- defrost 3y ago
  Even crazier, phone books where I lived had a Do NOT List arrangement with Telco providers that was actually respected and bulk leaks of DNL numbers | addresses names were almost unheard of. Even stalking LEO ex boyfriends | former husbands mostly left a paper trail if they requested a DNL number.

lazyasciiart 3y ago

Should an identical twin be required to get their twin’s consent? That would be 100% of their DNA. What about their twin’s children?

stickfigure 3y ago
No, and there's no moral ambiguity about it. Separate human, separate decisions.
- eindiran 3y ago
  What is the John Donne quote again? Of course there is moral ambiguity about it. You can live your life pretending your actions don't have consequences for other people, but don't expect people to enjoy living in your wake.
- lazyasciiart 3y ago
  Not sure why you chose this branch of the topic to share your declaration that the whole idea is nonsense, but ok.

whycome 3y ago

And if their father also did it, 100% would be in there.

anjel 3y ago
Except the data is randomized at conception