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Had it once, gave me intense euphoria for a very limited time (less than a minute), kind of a stupid drug. Of all the substances to forbid, this one? Vitamin B

Had it once, gave me intense euphoria for a very limited time (less than a minute), kind of a stupid drug. Of all the substances to forbid, this one? Vitamin B12 deficiency, really now? How much of it do you have to take for that to occur? Also, probably the easiest deficiency to correct.

bburrito 3y ago
Agreed. Unless you are doing psychedelics. In which case it acts as a catalyst. Interestingly, part of the reason it is still used is because it allows for a reduction in dosage for other things are also used as part of the cocktail prescribed for modern anasthesia. I was curious so I went and looked. I will definitely be reducing my usage of it to only when I do psychedelics. https://clinicalview.gehealthcare.com/article/use-or-not-use-nitrous-oxide-anesthesia-providers-decision-when-nitrous-oxide-should-be https://clinicalview.gehealthcare.com/article/use-or-not-use...
- Euphorbium 3y ago
  Surprisingly, I did not see any synergy with mushrooms. Just lsd.
misja111 3y ago
Believe it or not, but some people started to take amounts like 250 balloons a day. The consequences of chronic B12 deficiency are serious and irreversible; nerve damage and paralysis. Also now and then someone decides to drive a car while inhaling NO2, which as you can imagine, is not really a bright idea. These are rare cases but unfortunately these people are spoiling it for the rest.
- orra 3y ago
  > these people are spoiling it for the rest. These people aren't spoiling it for the rest. The government was always going to ban it because: (a) the government and the opposition always favour authoritarian drugs laws; and (b) they are unpopular and (due to ideology) incapable of solving real problems, so they announce terrible policies instead.
- zeristor 3y ago
  Doesn’t the balloon get in the way? There was petrol sniffing, and then people having a cigarette afterwards. The glue sniffing. So many silver phials dumped on the pavement, now people are buying the catering sized canisters of Nitrous oxide, and dumping that too.
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- Traubenfuchs 3y ago
  > 250 balloons a day Ok, can not emphasise with that, at all. > someone decides to drive a car while inhaling NO2 How? Why? It completely takes you out of commission for a few seconds / minute(s?) at best. Why would one take THAT while driving, it makes no sense.
  - orwin 3y ago
    Like alcohol (although through a different mechanism), it has an effect on how fast your neurons communicate with each others, for hours. But without the short-term bad effects of alcohol. It's not taking it while driving, it's taking it before it was purged from your organism.
mirekrusin 3y ago
It's about an absurd amount of this shit lying down on the grass in all parks, doesn't matter there is trash bin 2m away etc. Throwing shit outside of trash bins should be punishable by mandatory community service of picking up trash.
SargeDebian 3y ago
It's also very hard to prove that someone inhaled this stuff even very shortly after. Even if you find somone crashed into a siderail on the highway with empty balloons and canisters of laughing gas on the passenger seat, there's no way to prove that it was the gas. Aside from the fact that people get addicted and do this way too frequently, a ban might help prevent those kinds of accidents.
- damascus 3y ago
  Accidents happen all the time for any number of products. As was linked earlier over 700 people die every year in the US from being tangled in their bed sheets. Banning something because its involved in an accident is rarely the correct move. Was it 'involved in' or was it the 'contributing cause of' are very different things.

bburrito 3y ago

Agreed. Unless you are doing psychedelics. In which case it acts as a catalyst. Interestingly, part of the reason it is still used is because it allows for a reduction in dosage for other things are also used as part of the cocktail prescribed for modern anasthesia. I was curious so I went and looked. I will definitely be reducing my usage of it to only when I do psychedelics. https://clinicalview.gehealthcare.com/article/use-or-not-use-nitrous-oxide-anesthesia-providers-decision-when-nitrous-oxide-should-be https://clinicalview.gehealthcare.com/article/use-or-not-use...

Euphorbium 3y ago
Surprisingly, I did not see any synergy with mushrooms. Just lsd.

misja111 3y ago

Believe it or not, but some people started to take amounts like 250 balloons a day. The consequences of chronic B12 deficiency are serious and irreversible; nerve damage and paralysis. Also now and then someone decides to drive a car while inhaling NO2, which as you can imagine, is not really a bright idea. These are rare cases but unfortunately these people are spoiling it for the rest.

orra 3y ago
> these people are spoiling it for the rest. These people aren't spoiling it for the rest. The government was always going to ban it because: (a) the government and the opposition always favour authoritarian drugs laws; and (b) they are unpopular and (due to ideology) incapable of solving real problems, so they announce terrible policies instead.
zeristor 3y ago
Doesn’t the balloon get in the way? There was petrol sniffing, and then people having a cigarette afterwards. The glue sniffing. So many silver phials dumped on the pavement, now people are buying the catering sized canisters of Nitrous oxide, and dumping that too.
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Traubenfuchs 3y ago
> 250 balloons a day Ok, can not emphasise with that, at all. > someone decides to drive a car while inhaling NO2 How? Why? It completely takes you out of commission for a few seconds / minute(s?) at best. Why would one take THAT while driving, it makes no sense.
- orwin 3y ago
  Like alcohol (although through a different mechanism), it has an effect on how fast your neurons communicate with each others, for hours. But without the short-term bad effects of alcohol. It's not taking it while driving, it's taking it before it was purged from your organism.

mirekrusin 3y ago

It's about an absurd amount of this shit lying down on the grass in all parks, doesn't matter there is trash bin 2m away etc. Throwing shit outside of trash bins should be punishable by mandatory community service of picking up trash.

SargeDebian 3y ago

It's also very hard to prove that someone inhaled this stuff even very shortly after. Even if you find somone crashed into a siderail on the highway with empty balloons and canisters of laughing gas on the passenger seat, there's no way to prove that it was the gas. Aside from the fact that people get addicted and do this way too frequently, a ban might help prevent those kinds of accidents.

damascus 3y ago
Accidents happen all the time for any number of products. As was linked earlier over 700 people die every year in the US from being tangled in their bed sheets. Banning something because its involved in an accident is rarely the correct move. Was it 'involved in' or was it the 'contributing cause of' are very different things.