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> The page is blocked because of your cookie settings. To continue, please allow all cookies. How is this legal?

TylerE 3y ago
How would it not be? "I refuse cookies" is not a protected class, thus a private business may discriminate it at will. Same way a business could refuse to admit patrons not wearing shoes or carrying a firearm.
- jowea 3y ago
  Is that true under the GDPR?
  - TylerE 3y ago
    US companies aren't bound by the GDPR. European courts have no jurisdiction here.
    - alpaca128 3y ago
      European courts have jurisdiction in the EU, and CNBC is accessible in the EU unlike some other US websites, so they have to follow GDPR at least for EU visitors. And as far as I know cookie rejection must not influence the basic functionality of the site.
      - TylerE 3y ago
        Ok, how does an EU court enforce an EU law on a US company with US assets? They can’t. That’s my point.
        matkoniecz 3y ago
        Yes, if this company has no assets in EU and no transactions with EU entities then enforcing this may be hard.
    - alpaca128 3y ago
      > Ok, how does an EU court enforce an EU law on a US company with US assets? They can’t. You mean like this? https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-59909647 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-59909647
  - whstl 3y ago
    GDPR does not regulate cookies, it regulates usage of PII (personally identifiable information). So blocking cookies on principle is not against it, but collecting PII without consent is. Forcing the user into accepting, such as saying "click accept or pay" also is. [0] “Consent should not be regarded as freely given if the data subject has no genuine or free choice or is unable to refuse or withdraw consent without detriment.” – Example: https://noyb.eu/en/pay-or-okay-beginning-end#:~:text=No%20%22blanket%20consent%22.,as%20foreseen%20by%20the%20GDPR https://noyb.eu/en/pay-or-okay-beginning-end#:~:text=No%20%2....
coldtea 3y ago
Unless you're in the EU, or some place that also has laws against it, how is it not?
- alpaca128 3y ago
  > Unless you're in the EU I am in the EU
  - fsckboy 3y ago
    I'm not an expert on the GDPR (and I'm frankly sick of hearing about it) but surely what it bans is tracking cookies, and not cookies necessary for the proper function of the website?
    - whstl 3y ago
      Exactly, it regulates collection of PII, which includes most tracking cookies. It doesn't really regulate "refusing service due to disabling of browser features", but then again it's a complex law, so someone (even a court) might argue otherwise, but it's doubtful.
  - pepepepepe1 3y ago
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pjc50 3y ago
That's one way of complying with GDPR. It's as legal as a paywall.

How would it not be? "I refuse cookies" is not a protected class, thus a private business may discriminate it at will. Same way a business could refuse to admit patrons not wearing shoes or carrying a firearm.

jowea 3y ago
Is that true under the GDPR?
- TylerE 3y ago
  US companies aren't bound by the GDPR. European courts have no jurisdiction here.
  - alpaca128 3y ago
    European courts have jurisdiction in the EU, and CNBC is accessible in the EU unlike some other US websites, so they have to follow GDPR at least for EU visitors. And as far as I know cookie rejection must not influence the basic functionality of the site.
    - TylerE 3y ago
      Ok, how does an EU court enforce an EU law on a US company with US assets? They can’t. That’s my point.
      - matkoniecz 3y ago
        Yes, if this company has no assets in EU and no transactions with EU entities then enforcing this may be hard.
  - alpaca128 3y ago
    > Ok, how does an EU court enforce an EU law on a US company with US assets? They can’t. You mean like this? https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-59909647 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-59909647
- whstl 3y ago
  GDPR does not regulate cookies, it regulates usage of PII (personally identifiable information). So blocking cookies on principle is not against it, but collecting PII without consent is. Forcing the user into accepting, such as saying "click accept or pay" also is. [0] “Consent should not be regarded as freely given if the data subject has no genuine or free choice or is unable to refuse or withdraw consent without detriment.” – Example: https://noyb.eu/en/pay-or-okay-beginning-end#:~:text=No%20%22blanket%20consent%22.,as%20foreseen%20by%20the%20GDPR https://noyb.eu/en/pay-or-okay-beginning-end#:~:text=No%20%2....

coldtea 3y ago

Unless you're in the EU, or some place that also has laws against it, how is it not?

alpaca128 3y ago
> Unless you're in the EU I am in the EU
- fsckboy 3y ago
  I'm not an expert on the GDPR (and I'm frankly sick of hearing about it) but surely what it bans is tracking cookies, and not cookies necessary for the proper function of the website?
  - whstl 3y ago
    Exactly, it regulates collection of PII, which includes most tracking cookies. It doesn't really regulate "refusing service due to disabling of browser features", but then again it's a complex law, so someone (even a court) might argue otherwise, but it's doubtful.
- pepepepepe1 3y ago
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pjc50 3y ago

That's one way of complying with GDPR. It's as legal as a paywall.