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> Doesn't the fact that they're doing more than others give them that leg? They aren't doing more than others, they just have disposable income. Being wealthy

> Doesn't the fact that they're doing more than others give them that leg? They aren't doing more than others, they just have disposable income. Being wealthy isn't a virtue. > This is a false economy. I want you to go to Detroit, Appalachia or South America and explain this to them. Let them know dad can't go to work beacuse his car doesn't meet your standards or beacuse you shut down the refinery, but you won't be giving up your trip to Milan.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> they just have disposable income. Being wealthy isn't a virtue They're doing more than me, and I consider myself wealthy. I didn't know about Climeworks, and will start doing that, as well as perhaps prioritise putting up solar panels before redoing my deck and balcony. > want you to go to Detroit, Appalachia or South America and explain this to them I live in Wyoming. I understand what you're saying. What I'm saying is that the people in Appalachia, the ones whose towns are predominantly along flood-prone rivers surrounded by receding forests, they're the ones who will get screwed within our lifetimes. They are being done no favors being left to their own devices. > dad can't go to work beacuse his car doesn't meet your standards They can keep their car for as long as they want. And I'd argue that they should get a subsidy for making the change over to an EV. Right now, there is room to do that. To turn a refinery town into a wind or battery metals town. Ten or twenty years later, I think that moment has passed. There is never political will to save the last ones left behind.
- seanmcdirmid 3y ago
  Wyoming has a lot of potential for wind power (and they are developing it). West Virginia isn't as fortunate though (not enough flat land for lots of wind, no glaciers for hydro, though they could do a lot of pumped storage if coupled with nuclear or something).

JumpCrisscross 3y ago

> they just have disposable income. Being wealthy isn't a virtue They're doing more than me, and I consider myself wealthy. I didn't know about Climeworks, and will start doing that, as well as perhaps prioritise putting up solar panels before redoing my deck and balcony. > want you to go to Detroit, Appalachia or South America and explain this to them I live in Wyoming. I understand what you're saying. What I'm saying is that the people in Appalachia, the ones whose towns are predominantly along flood-prone rivers surrounded by receding forests, they're the ones who will get screwed within our lifetimes. They are being done no favors being left to their own devices. > dad can't go to work beacuse his car doesn't meet your standards They can keep their car for as long as they want. And I'd argue that they should get a subsidy for making the change over to an EV. Right now, there is room to do that. To turn a refinery town into a wind or battery metals town. Ten or twenty years later, I think that moment has passed. There is never political will to save the last ones left behind.

seanmcdirmid 3y ago
Wyoming has a lot of potential for wind power (and they are developing it). West Virginia isn't as fortunate though (not enough flat land for lots of wind, no glaciers for hydro, though they could do a lot of pumped storage if coupled with nuclear or something).