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Israelis and Palestinians blame each other for blast at Gaza hospital
- jacooper 3y ago[flagged]
- dang 3y agoPlease don't post like this, no matter how strongly you feel and even may be right to feel about the situation. For one thing, it's against HN's rules, and for another, it only makes things worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- weregiraffe 3y ago[flagged]
- HaZeust 3y agoAs it relates to the blame for this most unfortunate event, Gaza is pointing figure at Israel, and Israel is pointing fingers at Gaza - with both sides claiming certainty and future proof on their position. We do not yet know who to blame for this event. Let us keep emotions level and wait for the facts, peddling blame and "they's" through unsubstantiated claims is dangerous and can be irreparable. Until the facts come out, it's best to stay neutral on this specific event.
- mcv 3y agoThe reality is of course that both are wrong. Both are using excessive force and are needlessly killing civilians. Neither have any business putting all the blame on the other side, regardless of who actually fired this rocket. The fact that it's entirely credible that either side could have done it, says enough about the nature of the warring sides.
- megous 3y agoReality is also that only one side is laying a complete siege and endangering people it has duty to take care of as an occupation power under international law. And only one side is now continuing to kill and maim civilians on a mass scale, and destroying a city.
- nxm 3y agoHamas purposely stores weapons in apartment building and hospitals. Israel does its best to avoid civilian casualties - Hamas intentionally tries to kill as many innocent civilians as possible. It’s Hamas that intentionally killed innocent babies and raped women - you already forgot?
- defrost 3y agoWhich is no justification for the IDF intentionally or "accidentally" killing innocent babies and women either - men also, of course, as not all males in Gaza support Hamas by a long shot .. you already forgot?
- dzhiurgis 3y agoNot 100% of people support Putin either - should we allow Russia to attack Ukraine?
- mcv 3y agoNot sure why you're bringing this up. Are you arguing for attacks on Russian civilians? Please don't. Although they share an occupation of a weaker country by a more powerful one that seeks to destroy them, everything else about the situation is entirely different. Let's try not to mix up those different tragedies.
- nicota 3y agoApparently, it was due to a misfired rocket from Islamic Jihad aimed at Israel. https://twitter.com/jconricus/status/1714376318136021443 https://twitter.com/jconricus/status/1714376318136021443
- lots2learn 3y agoUnconfirmed
- tguvot 3y agoand another one, more clear video https://x.com/themossadil/status/1714376293700055489?s=46 https://x.com/themossadil/status/1714376293700055489?s=46
- RecycledEle 3y agoThank You. Now if you could go back in time and prevent the invention of Photoshop and AI, I could believe anything I see in 2023. Without and proof whatsoever I place the blame on Israel, Hamas, and Elvis. It was a 3-way collaboration. I am 100% certain that I have as much credible evidence in this as anyone else does for their position. No offense to my friends who are still influenced by video "proof."
- tguvot 3y agothan maybe none of this didn't happen ? blender, photoshop and ai ? to create manufactured outrage ? idf supposed to share : uav footage from above and call intercepts discussing "oopsie". there is also some radar data
- tguvot 3y agoand another one from different location https://twitter.com/manniefabian/status/1714377828131553446 https://twitter.com/manniefabian/status/1714377828131553446
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- kobalsky 3y agocan anyone recommend a serious long term strategic analysis of how this zone will look in, let's say, 30-50 years?
- tguvot 3y agocurrently most analysts trying to figure out how this zone will look in 3 months
- tguvot 3y agoupdate: analysts gave up and quit
- rurp 3y agoThat's waaaay too long of a timeframe to predict anything in geopolitics, especially in a turbulent area. I wouldn't trust anyone claiming to know what this region will look like in a year, let alone 30+.
- netsharc 3y agoWell, thanks to runaway climate change, there'll hopefully be peace and quiet there.
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- downvotetruth 3y agoGood odds Sabireen/Islamic Jihad will eventually get a black market nuke and hide it in one of the tunnels making a big glassed crater if and when Israel ends up sweeping the area.
- jesterman 3y agoWhy do you say there are good odds of that?
- anon123123q 3y ago[flagged]
- buffington 3y ago[flagged]
- dlahoda 3y ago[flagged]
- jesterman 3y agoDo you have some sources for these? Can't find anything online.
- dlahoda 3y agoI watched this https://www.youtube.com/@TomNash2 https://www.youtube.com/@TomNash2 and before this https://www.youtube.com/@TomNashTV https://www.youtube.com/@TomNashTV . Sure I never verified what he told. He just fits my way of thinking about the world.
- megous 3y agoIt's an Anglican hospital. Here's how it looked today: https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/17a72w3/a_video_from_inside_alahly_baptist_hospital_in/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/17a72w3/a_video_... Here's the website: https://afedj.org/institution/ahli-arab-hospital-gaza-city/ https://afedj.org/institution/ahli-arab-hospital-gaza-city/ Pretty nice place, it seems.
- JumpCrisscross 3y agoWhat are the odds we never get the true story? Half a dozen nations' spy infrastructure are trained on a strip smaller than New York City, to say nothing of our carrier strike group.
- raxxorraxor 3y agoI think with the current focus on the issue, we will probably find out. Macabre as it may sound, it might not really matter who is responsible, people have made up their minds. Doesn't help any victim in the end.
- oldbbsnickname 3y ago[flagged]
- tguvot 3y agoNot that anybody cares, yet https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1714525590873575600 https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/171452559087357560... https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1714513625598021868?s=20 https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1714513625598021868?s=20 https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/status/1714535687070916987?s=46 https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/status/171453568707091698...
- aaomidi 3y agoAnd also other perspectives: https://x.com/FSBRG/status/1714609431877431713?s=20 https://x.com/FSBRG/status/1714609431877431713?s=20
- tguvot 3y agohe still goes with "and generate a blast capable of killing hundreds,". there is no proof that there are hundreds. btw, map of rockets that failed to make it out of gaza https://i1.wp.com/www.theyeshivaworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/F8tMEUgW0AAU9IS-300x212.jpeg https://i1.wp.com/www.theyeshivaworld.com/wp-content/uploads...
- enterprise_cog 3y agoWhat falling rocket debris sounds like this? https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1714337776873640216 https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1714337776873640216
- tguvot 3y agowe are 1 step away from "it doesn't smell like jdam"
- enterprise_cog 3y agoAnswer the question. What falling debris sounds like that?
- karim79 3y ago"Well, they're the ones who started this!" Discuss.