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I run three word games, this stuff happens for all of them. It sucks but I would never do what they did, it's abusive to the people who just googled your game a
by furyofantares 3y ago
I run three word games, this stuff happens for all of them. It sucks but I would never do what they did, it's abusive to the people who just googled your game and ended up on the wrong site.
I've had teachers and students reach out to me to say they play my game in class every day together. And parents who play with their kids every day, and adult who text their results to each other every day.
It sucks if they end up doing it on an ad-ridden site when I built an experience that asks nothing of them. But it would suck even more to goatse them.
- gregsadetsky 3y agoagreed - it for sure would have been easier/cleaner/safer to just show a message that said "please play the official game on whatever.com"
- axelthegerman 3y agoThis!!
- amatecha 3y agoYeah this is actually basically what YouTube does when you embed a video and their settings don't allow embedding for that particular video. "Video unavailable - Watch on YouTube"
- extraduder_ire 3y agoThank you. I've been wondering why that feature exists for years now.
- amatecha 3y agoYeah I think basically the reason is they want to show you the various ads before/after/during the video and they won't work in the embed view (just guessing)
- s3p 3y agoIt is not this developer's job to parent someone's kids. It is a parent's responsibility to make sure their child only gets access to the appropriate websites when they are young.
- Cthulhu_ 3y agoCounterpoint: it takes a village. You're naive if you think parents have and can keep full oversight / control over their offspring's internet usage. You can have their devices and your at home internet locked tight, but then they go to a library, they go to a friend's place, they go to school where they get a laptop or tablet and school internet access, or a friend's hotspot. You can't protect your kids from the internet, you can only warn and educate them. I'm not saying to give them unlimited access from the get go, of course not. But I'm just saying you can't stop them either.
- balls187 3y agoExactly! Look, RJ Reynolds was perfectly within their rights to market cigarettes to young children, and shops were within their rights to sell to young children. It’s not their job to parent children. And if I want to open up a strip club across the street from the neighborhood public school, why should I be prevented by zoning laws? It’s not my responsibility to parent someone else's kids.
- akoboldfrying 3y agoSo before clicking on a word game in their browser, all parents should know about the business relationship, or lack thereof, between the underlying content provider and the website running in the top-level browser frame? I want to emphasise, again, that we're talking about clicking on a word game here.
- gonehome 3y ago+1 - this is a childish move and bad business imo. I'd guess the author is pretty young.
- darknavi 3y agoIt can't be bad "business" because they aren't making the game for money. Definitely childish though.
- hk__2 3y ago> It can't be bad "business" because they aren't making the game for money. It’s bad for their image and so for any business they may work on now or in the future.
- gochi 3y agoWhy would you want to do business with someone who prefers your content being used and monetized without your consent?
- VHRanger 3y agoI don't think it's childish. It's very crude, but satire often is and is one effective way of driving change in society around us.
- kikokikokiko 3y agoLife is a meaningless crawl towards the heat death of the universe. Childish behavior is the most appropriate attitude one can have towards most things.
- polygamous_bat 3y agoYou could, however, easily block the game and render a message directing users to your actual site if you detect they are using the site in an iframe. What legitimate reason can there be for that?
- ugjka 3y agoI think my strict privacy settings on Firefox are preventing the goatse, perhaps it needs a cookie or something
- TeMPOraL 3y agoDevil's advocate: OPs approach is a form of inoculation against the ad-powered Internet. The experience may not be pleasant, but drives the right message and quite memorably so.
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- jonahx 3y ago100%, and not just as devil's advocate. Let the punishment fit the crime. My sympathies are entirely on the side of the game's author. It's just an obscene image -- the "collateral damage" in this case is perfectly acceptable and imo fair because it damages the brands of the illegal hosters.
- balls187 3y agoYou’ll feel different about collateral damage when you have children of your own.
- jonahx 3y agoI already do.
- Grangar 3y agoGoatse is a right of passage and when my chuldren will inevitably stumble upon it one day I will be there to talk to them about it if they feel a need to. At the end of the day it's just a man stretching out his anus in bad lighting.
- fennecfoxy 3y agoYeah, I wouldn't allow my children unfettered access to the Internet and I certainly wouldn't be using an iPhone or tablet as a babysitter. However as a gay nerd I'm not really interested in having children, so I'll just have to leave it up to the village.
- akoboldfrying 3y ago
- callalex 3y agoThe abuser here is Google.
- catapart 3y agoDefinitely feels like a "report this website to google" button would be fantastic, if there was a way to automate/simplify such a thing for 1-3 clicks.
- supriyo-biswas 3y agoI hate to say the word, and especially because HN hates it, but this is effectively what DMCA notices are.
- michaelmrose 3y agoIts not copyright infringement to cause users to request the site and render in an iframe its closer to plugging yourself into someone else's electrical line
- nulbyte 3y agoGoogle taking down a result from their site doesn't stop theft on a third-party's site.
- esquivalience 3y agoJust to say, thanks for xordle. And for not serving obscenity on it.
- andersrs 3y agoI've had the same with my word game. People will report a bug and then I find out they are on some ad-ridden copycat. For my app it's reached multiple levels. One of the app thieves has embeded another app thief. https://imgur.com/a/0qW0y1r https://imgur.com/a/0qW0y1r The most frustrating thing for me is fucking Google. Their search results are so bad these days I can't get my game to the top even though thousands play it every day and link to it on social media. I'm at the top of Bing, DDG, Kagi. These sites run links to each other and Google's dumb algo loves it. Usually they don't use iFrame but proxy the whole request. Since using CloudFlare as my CDN a few of the app thieves have been defeated.
- furyofantares 3y agoYeah, my experience is also that they're mostly proxies and iframes are a minority. Some serve a cached version of the site (since like most of these, my sites are static - they do update to get the updated answer lists though, since I manually set the puzzles a bit in advance.) Some of the sites that host their own cached copy even go out of the way to remove the credits and contact info from the page.