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How exactly are creators paid for their creations from this "ethically designed" front end?
by erickj 3y ago
How exactly are creators paid for their creations from this "ethically designed" front end?
- guerrilla 3y agoPatreon and the like are the hest ways.
- mainpassathome 3y agodonations and sponsors, as usual
- loloquwowndueo 3y agoOh you mean the 99% of “creators” flooding YouTube with repetitive and ai-generated crap content to leverage ad revenue “ethically”? They can go pound sand as far as I’m concerned. There is great content in YouTube for sure but let’s face it, 99% is garbage designed to 1) latch on to popular trends to get more views and 2) use that to show ads and generate revenue for what’s essentially no content at all - just random garbage.
- antifa 3y agoIs it not safe to assume we're not watching the 99% of videos?
- Reubend 3y agoIt's not productive to say that 99% of the people contributing content are making garbage. Even if that were true, the 1% of good creators are equally affected by a lack of ad revenue as the bad ones. The parent comment is basically pointing out that you're depriving the creators you watch of ad revenue. If you sponsor the creators you watch directly, that's great! But most people don't, and even for the people on HN I suspect that they watch a lot more different channels than just the ones they sponsor.
- throwaway5959 3y agoThese people are willing to contort themselves into a pretzel to justify getting something for nothing. They’re no different than people that show up to a restaurant, get an hours worth of good service from a waiter then tip them nothing (in the US) and claim they believe tipping is morally wrong and the system should be brought down. “No dude, you’re just a cheap bastard.”
- ChrisArchitect 3y agoWeird obsession around here with avoiding ads. We're talking what, 5-20 seconds every few videos? You barely have to "watch" them. If it's inconveniencing your life too much maybe you're consuming too much YouTube. It's all passive consume consume consume. Think we should be talking about YouTube addiction more.
- eddythompson80 3y agoI'm assuming they are referring to the other 1%. Presumably ones they follow/subscribe to.
- Nextgrid 3y agoAdvertising is a terrible business model with many negative externalities up to threatening democracy. The sooner we get rid of it the sooner we'll have a viable and ethical alternative. Given the value of the average ad impression, a micropayment system that charged cents to each user is all you need. The problem at the moment is that while advertising is "good enough" there's little market pressure for publishers/creators to align on a common micropayments system.
- raggi 3y agoYouTube offers an alternative model: YouTube premium.
- Conscat 3y agoI still get ads for obviously awful products at the start of some videos. Neither YouTube Premium nor adblocks can stop a creator from telling me about the latest monthly razor subscription for me to buy.
- eviks 3y agoThat's not an alternative to the described micropayments system since this is an expensive bundle that doesn't depend on usage, so almost the opposite
- raggi 3y agoCorrect, it's an alternative to the advertising model, which is what it was a response to.
- shiroiuma 3y agoWell, they could do what Kurzgesagt does: sell merchandise. They have some really nice posters.
- dotnet00 3y agoThe same way most 'career' creators make their money these days, channel memberships, merch, superchats, sponsors, patreons etc. YouTube has already made it pretty risky for creators to stake their livelihood on advertisement money, as YouTube can decide to demonetize videos and channels pretty much arbitrarily with no quick recourse (which is important given how front-loaded video view rate is) if a recourse is available at all, and companies can steal a large chunk of advertising revenue even for content that should fall under fair use. On top of that, YouTube can also put ads on videos even if creators haven't set them up, in which case the money does not go to the creators. As such it hasn't been worth it for creators to rely solely on advertising revenue or YouTube premium revenue for a while. YouTube, through its total disregard for creators, has long since made it not a stable source of income in the way that the others can be.
- vor_ 3y agoDo you not notice all the "This video is sponsored by" segments in videos these days?