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I stopped viewing due to LACK of moderation. There were too many questions asking the same thing that had been answered many times before. Too many where the

I stopped viewing due to LACK of moderation. There were too many questions asking the same thing that had been answered many times before. Too many where the answer is RTFM. SO used to have interesting questions, questions that I needed answered or that I found interesting to spend time on to research.

sebzim4500 3y ago
> Too many where the answer is RTFM I think that is precisely the problem. A kid is teaching himself to program. He has an error which a million people before him have faced. He types it into google and gets SEO bullshit. He asks stackoverflow and they close his question immediately as a duplicate of a question which, to him, looks very different. He asks ChatGPT and he gets an answer immediately. Where does start next time he has a problem?
- pasc1878 3y ago
  It should be with the manual but current ones are not that good. So it will be with the possibly wrong answer from ChatGPT. When learning nothing replaces a book or tutorial that has had some proof reading or editing. Just picking up small bits from the web here and there does make things difficult and does not really teach you. Learning in general needs you to fail and think not just google an answer.
nicoburns 3y ago
> SO used to have interesting questions, questions that I needed answered or that I found interesting to spend time on to research. IMO a lot of the interesting questions got moderated away. Almost all of my favourite SO questions are closed as being off topic or subjective. I do think that the community struggled to scale with influx of a huge volume of users. But I also think that the strategy that they chose to deal with it was ultimately overzealous.
- pasc1878 3y ago
  By interesting question I mean that ones that I did not know and were not a simple read the manual. They would be ones I would have find fun in researching the answer. Your definition of interesting is a discussion which is not what SO is for - even if they did then they do not have to tools to help this e.g. threading being able to vote on interim comments etc.
  - baq 3y ago
    No wonder LLMs ate their lunch. If questions about contents of the manual are the only ones allowed, you are literally better off just asking Bing Chat.
    - pasc1878 3y ago
      Everything should be in the manual - but it is not nowadays. Many projects just say read the code which is difficult to first find the correct code and then understand it as the code might be more complex than the uisers knowledge or be in a different language. Even if it is it is often difficult to put the individual facts together and that is what a SO answer will do.

sebzim4500 3y ago

> Too many where the answer is RTFM I think that is precisely the problem. A kid is teaching himself to program. He has an error which a million people before him have faced. He types it into google and gets SEO bullshit. He asks stackoverflow and they close his question immediately as a duplicate of a question which, to him, looks very different. He asks ChatGPT and he gets an answer immediately. Where does start next time he has a problem?

pasc1878 3y ago
It should be with the manual but current ones are not that good. So it will be with the possibly wrong answer from ChatGPT. When learning nothing replaces a book or tutorial that has had some proof reading or editing. Just picking up small bits from the web here and there does make things difficult and does not really teach you. Learning in general needs you to fail and think not just google an answer.

nicoburns 3y ago

> SO used to have interesting questions, questions that I needed answered or that I found interesting to spend time on to research. IMO a lot of the interesting questions got moderated away. Almost all of my favourite SO questions are closed as being off topic or subjective. I do think that the community struggled to scale with influx of a huge volume of users. But I also think that the strategy that they chose to deal with it was ultimately overzealous.

pasc1878 3y ago
By interesting question I mean that ones that I did not know and were not a simple read the manual. They would be ones I would have find fun in researching the answer. Your definition of interesting is a discussion which is not what SO is for - even if they did then they do not have to tools to help this e.g. threading being able to vote on interim comments etc.
- baq 3y ago
  No wonder LLMs ate their lunch. If questions about contents of the manual are the only ones allowed, you are literally better off just asking Bing Chat.
  - pasc1878 3y ago
    Everything should be in the manual - but it is not nowadays. Many projects just say read the code which is difficult to first find the correct code and then understand it as the code might be more complex than the uisers knowledge or be in a different language. Even if it is it is often difficult to put the individual facts together and that is what a SO answer will do.