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This, I guess, was a minor disaster with the iPhone 15 launch. I bought one the weekend they launched, and the employee told me "don't upgrade to 17.0.1, it br

This, I guess, was a minor disaster with the iPhone 15 launch. I bought one the weekend they launched, and the employee told me "don't upgrade to 17.0.1, it breaks transfering from another device; wait for 17.0.2". By the time I got home 17.0.2 was out, but people that bought this the 2 days before probably had a bad time. I suppose you could test your patch releases even if it's launch weekend, but having the ability to have a known-good version out of the box is nice.

initplus 3y ago
AFAIK it was not broken? The update broke the camera recognition for the code. But you were able to type it in manually.
toast0 3y ago
I don't see how in box updates helps with this? Sounds like they shipped with 17.0.0, 17.0.1 was a day one patch and determined to be broken, but wasn't pulled before a fixed update was released. In this situation, instead of being told not to update and you being able to skip the update and run initial setup on 17.0.0 if 17.0.2 hadn't shipped, they may have already updated the device to 17.0.1, and you would have had to wait. Presumably if it was bad enough, they might not sell you the thing until 17.0.2 was available for them to update it before you got it. That said, in box upgrades are great to avoid huge patches when you open something that may have been sitting on the shelves for a while, and should help with logistics as well. Apple said they wanted to use more ocean freight rather than air freight for environmental reasons, and it will also likely reduce costs, but as another poster was saying, if you can't put the phones in the box until the final OS is ready, you can't ship the phones until the OS is ready, and ocean freight is slow. Being able to ship the phones and update them after they arrive in the destination at the destination store/distribution warehouse eliminates a pipeline bubble.
matwood 3y ago
I got mine on launch. The issue is that people were skipping the update which in some cases caused transferring to fail. I'm not sure how people managed to skip since it's heavily suggested as part of the setup, but maybe people are in a rush.
- flemhans 3y ago
  When you get a new phone you wanna play with it right away. The update can wait until Nighttime
whazor 3y ago
They could even run a test suite on an iPhone before selling to a customer. For customers, it would be quite nice to get a charged, updated, verified iPhone.

initplus 3y ago

AFAIK it was not broken? The update broke the camera recognition for the code. But you were able to type it in manually.

toast0 3y ago

I don't see how in box updates helps with this? Sounds like they shipped with 17.0.0, 17.0.1 was a day one patch and determined to be broken, but wasn't pulled before a fixed update was released. In this situation, instead of being told not to update and you being able to skip the update and run initial setup on 17.0.0 if 17.0.2 hadn't shipped, they may have already updated the device to 17.0.1, and you would have had to wait. Presumably if it was bad enough, they might not sell you the thing until 17.0.2 was available for them to update it before you got it. That said, in box upgrades are great to avoid huge patches when you open something that may have been sitting on the shelves for a while, and should help with logistics as well. Apple said they wanted to use more ocean freight rather than air freight for environmental reasons, and it will also likely reduce costs, but as another poster was saying, if you can't put the phones in the box until the final OS is ready, you can't ship the phones until the OS is ready, and ocean freight is slow. Being able to ship the phones and update them after they arrive in the destination at the destination store/distribution warehouse eliminates a pipeline bubble.

matwood 3y ago

I got mine on launch. The issue is that people were skipping the update which in some cases caused transferring to fail. I'm not sure how people managed to skip since it's heavily suggested as part of the setup, but maybe people are in a rush.

flemhans 3y ago
When you get a new phone you wanna play with it right away. The update can wait until Nighttime

whazor 3y ago

They could even run a test suite on an iPhone before selling to a customer. For customers, it would be quite nice to get a charged, updated, verified iPhone.