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Spain tech job market is facing a hiring freeze

48 points by saguntum 3y ago

rco8786 3y ago
This site is unreadable with the pop up ads.
- cko 3y ago
  I thought it was just my mobile browser (Chrome on Android) but every paragraph was followed by the same ad.
- slig 3y ago
  Zero BS here on Brave for Android.
- vehementi 3y ago
  uBlock origin makes it a nice text document.
  - Animats 3y ago
    Yes, definitely need ad-blocking here. This reads as if it was written with a large number of buzzwords that did not translate well. Also, there's another article on the same site, "End to the great era of layoffs: big technology companies reactivate hiring but with conditions". Which came first? There's no date.
- arecurrence 3y ago
  Click the reader mode button, makes it far more palatable :)
- juunpp 3y ago
  That is an understatement. UBlock Origin is blocking 454 ads, or 92% of the page.
- mvdtnz 3y ago
  Even without the ads it's unreadable. It feels like it has been translated with a 15 year old version of Google Translate.
- tholman 3y ago
  As someone that works in media/advertising, the first thing I check when I see something like this is their ads.txt [1] -- It looks like they're managed by ezoic whom you forward your entire dns and they inject ads in the middle (AI is mentioned, naturally). Definitely ruining this whole site's experience. [1] https://samagame.com/ads.txt https://samagame.com/ads.txt
pylua 3y ago
Countries really need to internalize their it needs and infrastructure. It is good for the local economy and is an investment in its people . I definitely tend to agree with the outsourcing piece. I would guess that probably has more impact than a recession.
rutierut 3y ago
This is a poorly translated article with a sensationalist headline. The only real facts here reflect the general trend seen in the last year where the tech job market is slightly cooling off.
angarg12 3y ago
When I finished my degree in Spain 15 years ago, programmers weren't a well paid or well regarded job. In fact I used to live paycheck to paycheck (making less than some of my friends in non-tech jobs), and programming was considered "for nerds". I think this didn't change much for the following decade, but COVID turned the tables. Suddenly Spanish programmers could take jobs for global companies for very competitive salaries. I've heard of people making 70-80k euros working from home, which is more than 2x the average national. Recently someone told me that when they offered a Spanish programmer a job for 100k USD, she started crying. So the "correction" that we are seeing seems more like a logical consequence of the contracting job market, plus the move away from remote work for many companies. It seems more like a correction than a crisis.
- gxs 3y ago
  Why do you think “leaders” are pushing for return to office? Why do you think Paul Graham compares it to communism? It’s not because of some culture building nonsense - it’s 2023 and by now we know it works. They do it because they hate the leverage and mobility it gives employees. How someone can’t see why SV investors and the CEOs of various companies and the giant conflict of interest is beyond me.
  - pertymcpert 3y ago
    Collaboration is more effective in person. We're not machines, we're humans.
    - collaborative 3y ago
      Sure, but employees would rather work and live away from the grind-zero. If businesses want to attract talent, they need to accept this. Again, it's about leverage. Employees need to hold the line
      - pertymcpert 3y ago
        As I said in another comment, part of the job as an experienced/senior engineer in tech is to work with others, and not be a hero programmer. I actually think that there's room here for a hybrid. Have one track for remote engineers and one for in person. Remote engineers get different work, they generally have a lower ceiling in career potential. In exchange they get what they want, they work mostly by themselves with videoconf/slack as aid. Of course there's always the exceptions. If you're the top 0.0001% in domain experts in a field, you can do whatever you want.
545ed34c3 3y ago
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incrudible 3y ago
This is a horribly made website, I feel wronged for being lured into visiting it.
- jowdones 3y ago
  It's a ducking scam, no less. Who the funk posted it and why don't they have an account?
the_gipsy 3y ago
This is a very, very bad translation from Spanish. Barely even readable. Also seems based on speculation.
Proven 3y ago
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wkat4242 3y ago
I'm kinda seeing the opposite. Recruiters are falling over themselves contacting me and this wasn't the case a year ago. I'm in cyber. It's a bit annoying because while I'm mildly interested in other opportunities, most don't even bother reading my profile and just dump their crap on me. I selected the remote only option but most jobs that are shared with me are office based or hybrid. I'm officially hybrid now but I rarely visit the office and I want to keep it that way. Offices have become horrible places now with the hotdesking.

48 points by saguntum 3y ago

rco8786 3y ago

This site is unreadable with the pop up ads.

cko 3y ago
I thought it was just my mobile browser (Chrome on Android) but every paragraph was followed by the same ad.
slig 3y ago
Zero BS here on Brave for Android.
vehementi 3y ago
uBlock origin makes it a nice text document.
- Animats 3y ago
  Yes, definitely need ad-blocking here. This reads as if it was written with a large number of buzzwords that did not translate well. Also, there's another article on the same site, "End to the great era of layoffs: big technology companies reactivate hiring but with conditions". Which came first? There's no date.
arecurrence 3y ago
Click the reader mode button, makes it far more palatable :)
juunpp 3y ago
That is an understatement. UBlock Origin is blocking 454 ads, or 92% of the page.
mvdtnz 3y ago
Even without the ads it's unreadable. It feels like it has been translated with a 15 year old version of Google Translate.
tholman 3y ago
As someone that works in media/advertising, the first thing I check when I see something like this is their ads.txt [1] -- It looks like they're managed by ezoic whom you forward your entire dns and they inject ads in the middle (AI is mentioned, naturally). Definitely ruining this whole site's experience. [1] https://samagame.com/ads.txt https://samagame.com/ads.txt

pylua 3y ago

Countries really need to internalize their it needs and infrastructure. It is good for the local economy and is an investment in its people . I definitely tend to agree with the outsourcing piece. I would guess that probably has more impact than a recession.

rutierut 3y ago

This is a poorly translated article with a sensationalist headline. The only real facts here reflect the general trend seen in the last year where the tech job market is slightly cooling off.

angarg12 3y ago

When I finished my degree in Spain 15 years ago, programmers weren't a well paid or well regarded job. In fact I used to live paycheck to paycheck (making less than some of my friends in non-tech jobs), and programming was considered "for nerds". I think this didn't change much for the following decade, but COVID turned the tables. Suddenly Spanish programmers could take jobs for global companies for very competitive salaries. I've heard of people making 70-80k euros working from home, which is more than 2x the average national. Recently someone told me that when they offered a Spanish programmer a job for 100k USD, she started crying. So the "correction" that we are seeing seems more like a logical consequence of the contracting job market, plus the move away from remote work for many companies. It seems more like a correction than a crisis.

gxs 3y ago
Why do you think “leaders” are pushing for return to office? Why do you think Paul Graham compares it to communism? It’s not because of some culture building nonsense - it’s 2023 and by now we know it works. They do it because they hate the leverage and mobility it gives employees. How someone can’t see why SV investors and the CEOs of various companies and the giant conflict of interest is beyond me.
- pertymcpert 3y ago
  Collaboration is more effective in person. We're not machines, we're humans.
  - collaborative 3y ago
    Sure, but employees would rather work and live away from the grind-zero. If businesses want to attract talent, they need to accept this. Again, it's about leverage. Employees need to hold the line
    - pertymcpert 3y ago
      As I said in another comment, part of the job as an experienced/senior engineer in tech is to work with others, and not be a hero programmer. I actually think that there's room here for a hybrid. Have one track for remote engineers and one for in person. Remote engineers get different work, they generally have a lower ceiling in career potential. In exchange they get what they want, they work mostly by themselves with videoconf/slack as aid. Of course there's always the exceptions. If you're the top 0.0001% in domain experts in a field, you can do whatever you want.

545ed34c3 3y ago

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incrudible 3y ago

This is a horribly made website, I feel wronged for being lured into visiting it.

jowdones 3y ago
It's a ducking scam, no less. Who the funk posted it and why don't they have an account?

the_gipsy 3y ago

This is a very, very bad translation from Spanish. Barely even readable. Also seems based on speculation.

Proven 3y ago

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wkat4242 3y ago

I'm kinda seeing the opposite. Recruiters are falling over themselves contacting me and this wasn't the case a year ago. I'm in cyber. It's a bit annoying because while I'm mildly interested in other opportunities, most don't even bother reading my profile and just dump their crap on me. I selected the remote only option but most jobs that are shared with me are office based or hybrid. I'm officially hybrid now but I rarely visit the office and I want to keep it that way. Offices have become horrible places now with the hotdesking.