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I was expecting recipes to make something that's an ingredient of themselves, so that the recipe is truly recursive. Now I'm trying to find out such examples o
by p4bl0 3y ago
I was expecting recipes to make something that's an ingredient of themselves, so that the recipe is truly recursive.
Now I'm trying to find out such examples of actually recursive recipe and I only find examples based on fermentation, which have a way to be bootstrapped but are then actually recursive: kombucha, kefir, vinegar, levain.
Is there anything else?
- sand500 3y agoMy first thought was https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_stew https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_stew
- jks 3y agoI heard this from a Russian friend years ago (so I might get the details wrong): to make the Cocktail Recursive, mix - 1 unit of vodka - 2 units of water - 3 units of Cocktail Recursive
- thriftwy 3y agoAlso well known is Russian recursive salad: tomato, cucumber, salad. (Where the salad the consituent is an alias for lettuce) I can't imagine Russians mixing vodka with water, though.
- TeMPOraL 3y agoThere's also the Fibonacci's salad: mix leftovers from yesterday's salad with leftovers from the salad you had two days ago.
- emoII 3y agoMaking yoghurt contains the instruction: "Stir in some yogurt (from the store or from a friend) and cover with a clean damp towel overnight." This recursive dependency is not visualized sadly. Fun website nonetheless!
- p4bl0 3y agoYes of course, yogurt, which is another fermentation based recipe.
- recursivecaveat 3y agoFondant is much easier to make with some fondant as an ingredient. It acts as a seed to encourage the formation of the structure. I wonder if there are any mutually-recursive recipes.
- Nzen 3y agoAh, that reminds me that tempering chocolate involves seeding it with tempered chocolate [0] [0] https://youtu.be/2VrsmahNcfI?si=iDrWhkeAhrSQNMIF&t=549 https://youtu.be/2VrsmahNcfI?si=iDrWhkeAhrSQNMIF&t=549 Bon Appétit making gourmet Andes Mints
- tux3 3y agoFruits salad? Throw away the kernels, get more fruit.
- enjeyw 3y agoCherry Ripe Bars [1] use rejected bars as a component of their filling.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_Ripe_(chocolate_bar) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_Ripe_(chocolate_bar)
- dcminter 3y agoThey missed an opportunity with the eggs, which went egg -> egg laying chicken -> baby chicken but could clearly have then included baby chicken -> egg ...
- denton-scratch 3y ago> so that the recipe is truly recursive Recursion doesn't imply infinite recursion; a recipe doesn't have to invoke itself to be a recursive recipe. Surely a recursive recipe is just a recipe that invokes a recipe. This is completely normal; see Escoffier. E.g. for Cod Mornay, "Make a roux". Escoffier's recipes were often just a single paragraph; you were supposed to know how the target tastes and looks. Making sourdough is arguably infinitely recursive. You can break the recursion by looking up "Make a sourdough starter".
- dmd 3y ago> a recipe doesn't have to invoke itself to be a recursive recipe Er, no. That IS exactly what recursion means. It doesn't have to be infinite - there can be a halt condition - but if something doesn't call itself, it is not recursive. These are not recursive recipes at all; they're just nested.
- MarkusQ 3y ago> Surely a recursive recipe is just a recipe that invokes a recipe. No, a recursive recipe is one that (directly or indirectly) invokes _itself_. That's the whole point of recursion (literally, come back (=re) turning (=cur)). And don't call me Shirley.
- denton-scratch 3y agoOK, I should have thought a bit more before posting. But in that case the recipe for refried beans isn't recursive; there are no refried beans in the ingredients for refried beans, even if you grow your own beans as part of the recipe. I had a boss who liked to be obeyed immediately; if you said you'd do it shortly, he'd say "Don't call me Shortly". He wasn't very tall.
- rpearl 3y agoa common way to temper chocolate for making candy is to seed the crystal structure with... tempered chocolate
- explaininjs 3y agoIt’s giving ice-9. Anyone know how the first chocolate was tempered?
- rpearl 3y agoYou can also temper chocolate by melting it to 50°C-55°C, cooling it to 28°C and then working with it, barely melted, at 31°C. I don't know how we figured that out to start with though.