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Paw Patrol is so shit, I had to study it in my undergrad forensic psychology course: https://www.docdroid.net/Oq00TE7/1741659020903700-pdf https://www.docdroid

Paw Patrol is so shit, I had to study it in my undergrad forensic psychology course: https://www.docdroid.net/Oq00TE7/1741659020903700-pdf https://www.docdroid.net/Oq00TE7/1741659020903700-pdf And if you can’t be bothered reading an academic journal about it, this YouTube video really emphasises the issues quite well: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rwhUpu9MfZ0 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rwhUpu9MfZ0

vikramkr 3y ago
So the article in the post says paw patrol has no commerce, this paper says it's capitalist propaganda. So which is it? Socialist countries have oppressive police forces and incompetent administrators too.
- Quinzel 3y ago
  It’s definitely post-colonial, neoliberal capitalist propaganda. However, I really had to study it deeply to come to that conclusion, because my initial thoughts was that it was overthinking of children’s television - but now I can understand that my very initial perspective was literally shaped by this neoliberal bullshittery.
  - SturgeonsLaw 3y ago
    This sort of thing has an impact. I grew up watching Rocky and Bullwinkle, and Roger Ramjet, and it moulded my opinion of the USA and the USSR
  - TeMPOraL 3y ago
    Nah, I'd stick with overthinking - I think that when you start stringing together phrases like "post-colonial, neoliberal capitalist" to describe a thing, you're way in the overthinking land (and/or trying to confuse your interlocutor with rhetoric).
    - slim 3y ago
      you just reacted to keywords with preprocessed refutal to a person claiming he had to put in effort to get out of precisely that behaviour. maybe you could use some introspection, self reflection and reading ?
    - vikramkr 3y ago
      Yeah, really had to study it is a great way of saying really had to confirmation bias my way into it. First time really hearing about this show and I'm trying to find real examples of pro-laizzes-faire propaganda or facial or anything but all I'm getting is that people definitely thought real hard about this, pinky promise. I mean seriously this article is arguing that a show that shows authority figures are corrupt and incompetent is fascist. That's not like a counterexample to the claim in the article. The article claims that not blindly worshiping authority is fascist. Next thing I'll be reading that the show promotes unhealthy habits by showing the kid eating vegetables and getting exercise
bogantech 3y ago
Just reading the abstract my eyes rolled out of my head and down the hall
- Quinzel 3y ago
  Hahaha that was my reaction the first time I read it.
neilv 3y ago
Ironically, all those TV news program clips at the start of the YouTube video also look like performance intended to manipulate the viewer in what to think.
- appplication 3y ago
  I think that’s the point, to show exactly that.
hutzlibu 3y ago
" Specifically, the series implies that it is literal outsiders—migrants from near and far—who bring crime and disorder to Adventure Bay and threaten the residents’ idyllic life" That sounds bad, but the evil guy is a stereotype white capitalist with a melon and the good mayor is a women of color.
- Quinzel 3y ago
  Mmmm but if you dig a little deeper you would see this is literally how we treat migrants from near and far in western society: https://www.nicholasdegenova.com/_files/ugd/4fd32d_2cb359fc9bf34d3fb21962591b5b32da.pdf#page=213 https://www.nicholasdegenova.com/_files/ugd/4fd32d_2cb359fc9... https://search.informit.org/doi/10.3316/INFORMIT.359417087416006 https://search.informit.org/doi/10.3316/INFORMIT.35941708741... https://theconversation.com/new-zealanders-have-a-right-to-be-angry-when-australia-deports-a-15-year-old-157583 https://theconversation.com/new-zealanders-have-a-right-to-b... *disclaimer: that’s about 2 hours worth of reading and one of the articles I couldn’t find free access to.
  - hutzlibu 3y ago
    But it has not the typical racist component, what one would think after reading your sentences. And whether banning foreign troublemakers is the wrong thing in general, is a quite lengthy discussion and not one I am willing to do here and now. (Because I don't think it is wrong in general, but I also don't think the Australian government is handling it fine)
- evan_ 3y ago
  Mayor Goodway is portrayed as an incompetent, neurotic maniac.
  - hutzlibu 3y ago
    OK, I have to say I couldn't bear myself to watch one full episode yet, but in my impression she was portrayed as the nice one, which also the name "Goodway" implies. (nice does not have to mean competent)
justsomehnguy 3y ago
About "10% of each episode is dedicated to them jumping into their voltron vehicles": it's the story as old as capitalism and it's the same reason you have those long transformations in Sailor Moon, to give an actual example, but it applies to all off the mill series in anime, western and 'western' cartoons too. The TV time is sold as slots (usually ~30m for animation), you can't buy some arbitrary amount of time - you buy the slot, you need a serious amount of money for the prime time slots; a TV show requires money (big amounts of money) for the every second produced; so it's the easiest way to lower amount of money spent per episode - animate once, show multiple times.

vikramkr 3y ago

So the article in the post says paw patrol has no commerce, this paper says it's capitalist propaganda. So which is it? Socialist countries have oppressive police forces and incompetent administrators too.

Quinzel 3y ago
It’s definitely post-colonial, neoliberal capitalist propaganda. However, I really had to study it deeply to come to that conclusion, because my initial thoughts was that it was overthinking of children’s television - but now I can understand that my very initial perspective was literally shaped by this neoliberal bullshittery.
- SturgeonsLaw 3y ago
  This sort of thing has an impact. I grew up watching Rocky and Bullwinkle, and Roger Ramjet, and it moulded my opinion of the USA and the USSR
- TeMPOraL 3y ago
  Nah, I'd stick with overthinking - I think that when you start stringing together phrases like "post-colonial, neoliberal capitalist" to describe a thing, you're way in the overthinking land (and/or trying to confuse your interlocutor with rhetoric).
  - slim 3y ago
    you just reacted to keywords with preprocessed refutal to a person claiming he had to put in effort to get out of precisely that behaviour. maybe you could use some introspection, self reflection and reading ?
  - vikramkr 3y ago
    Yeah, really had to study it is a great way of saying really had to confirmation bias my way into it. First time really hearing about this show and I'm trying to find real examples of pro-laizzes-faire propaganda or facial or anything but all I'm getting is that people definitely thought real hard about this, pinky promise. I mean seriously this article is arguing that a show that shows authority figures are corrupt and incompetent is fascist. That's not like a counterexample to the claim in the article. The article claims that not blindly worshiping authority is fascist. Next thing I'll be reading that the show promotes unhealthy habits by showing the kid eating vegetables and getting exercise

bogantech 3y ago

Just reading the abstract my eyes rolled out of my head and down the hall

Quinzel 3y ago
Hahaha that was my reaction the first time I read it.

neilv 3y ago

Ironically, all those TV news program clips at the start of the YouTube video also look like performance intended to manipulate the viewer in what to think.

appplication 3y ago
I think that’s the point, to show exactly that.

hutzlibu 3y ago

" Specifically, the series implies that it is literal outsiders—migrants from near and far—who bring crime and disorder to Adventure Bay and threaten the residents’ idyllic life" That sounds bad, but the evil guy is a stereotype white capitalist with a melon and the good mayor is a women of color.

Quinzel 3y ago
Mmmm but if you dig a little deeper you would see this is literally how we treat migrants from near and far in western society: https://www.nicholasdegenova.com/_files/ugd/4fd32d_2cb359fc9bf34d3fb21962591b5b32da.pdf#page=213 https://www.nicholasdegenova.com/_files/ugd/4fd32d_2cb359fc9... https://search.informit.org/doi/10.3316/INFORMIT.359417087416006 https://search.informit.org/doi/10.3316/INFORMIT.35941708741... https://theconversation.com/new-zealanders-have-a-right-to-be-angry-when-australia-deports-a-15-year-old-157583 https://theconversation.com/new-zealanders-have-a-right-to-b... *disclaimer: that’s about 2 hours worth of reading and one of the articles I couldn’t find free access to.
- hutzlibu 3y ago
  But it has not the typical racist component, what one would think after reading your sentences. And whether banning foreign troublemakers is the wrong thing in general, is a quite lengthy discussion and not one I am willing to do here and now. (Because I don't think it is wrong in general, but I also don't think the Australian government is handling it fine)
evan_ 3y ago
Mayor Goodway is portrayed as an incompetent, neurotic maniac.
- hutzlibu 3y ago
  OK, I have to say I couldn't bear myself to watch one full episode yet, but in my impression she was portrayed as the nice one, which also the name "Goodway" implies. (nice does not have to mean competent)

justsomehnguy 3y ago

About "10% of each episode is dedicated to them jumping into their voltron vehicles": it's the story as old as capitalism and it's the same reason you have those long transformations in Sailor Moon, to give an actual example, but it applies to all off the mill series in anime, western and 'western' cartoons too. The TV time is sold as slots (usually ~30m for animation), you can't buy some arbitrary amount of time - you buy the slot, you need a serious amount of money for the prime time slots; a TV show requires money (big amounts of money) for the every second produced; so it's the easiest way to lower amount of money spent per episode - animate once, show multiple times.