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Telegram CEO says app will continue to host 'war-related content'

35 points by r721 3y ago

morkalork 3y ago
Reddit admin caused some drama in r/combatfootage when they came down on them for having Hamas pov videos. It's a very muddled stance. Ukrainian and Russian pov: a-okay. Israeli settlers in the west Bank shooting unarmed palistinians: also a-okay. Hamas: no-bueno. Somebody make it make sense. I'd ask there but of course the thread was already locked.
- wizerdrobe 3y ago
  Is there any advertiser pushback on Hamas content, since they are not a proper State?
  - morkalork 3y ago
    I think if we're gonna start picking and choosing which murder porn is okay based on state backing, we may as well start up the hunger games.
- dannydowonahn1 3y ago
  The difference is only one of those four examples is an internationally designated terror organization.
  - ffgjgf1 3y ago
    One of those states is also an internationally recognized “state sponsor of terrorism” so it’s not that far off
  - lucideer 3y ago
    Another of those four examples is internationally designated as a violation of the 4th Geneva Convention under UNSC Resolution 2334. I don't think one can say that international condemnation is particularly unique to any of them.
  - cyanydeez 3y ago
    If Russia didn't usurp USSRs UN seat, they'd be designated a terrorist state.
    - vetinari 3y ago
      Russia didn't usurp anything; they are legally USSR ancestor state. They also got all of USSR's debts.
- webmobdev 3y ago
  If I remember right, Reddit hired somebody who was formerly at NSA or Pentagon. Posting anything anti-Ukranian or pro-Russian gets heavily censored. Not surprised that it happens with Hamas too, as the US provoked a civil war between Fatah and Hamas by openly and publicly favouring Fatah. They hate Hamas.
- ybessyehs654 3y ago
  "Israeli settlers in the west Bank shooting unarmed palistinians" What are you talking about? I can't find any video you're describing https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/search?q=palestinians https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/search?q=palestinians
d0mine 3y ago
The article says the opposite sides use the app, not just one side pushing their propaganda (naturally, that along is enough to blame for "misinformation"). Great app.
attentive 3y ago
I find telegram lacking in two major ways: 1. Can't block annoying posters 2. No functional website For these reasons I avoid it if possible.
- wsgeorge 3y ago
  > No functional website You surely don't mean web.telegram.com isn't functional?
  - attentive 3y ago
    What I meant is t.me site with "channel previews". web.telegram.com redirects to www.usatoday.com You probably meant web.telegram.org which is well hidden and nowhere to be found on their web site so I didn't know about it. Thanks for that. The point on blocking still remains. You wouldn't have solution for that as well? :)
    - lucideer 3y ago
      > web.telegram.com redirects to www.usatoday.com ... why? > The point on blocking still remains That would be a cool feature - they take feature requests at https://bugs.telegram.org/ https://bugs.telegram.org/ - I'm not aware of any competing apps that have it so it's possible noone has requested this before. Seems novel.
      - graynk 3y ago
        > I'm not aware of any competing apps that have it Discord has that, though I wouldn't call it Telegram's competitor
      - attentive 3y ago
        > I'm not aware of any competing apps twitter?
      - boeingUH60 3y ago
        > Why? Telegram.com belongs to Telegram & Gazette, a newspaper owned by Gannett. Gannett also owns USA Today. The Telegram app has always used Telegram.org.

35 points by r721 3y ago

Reddit admin caused some drama in r/combatfootage when they came down on them for having Hamas pov videos. It's a very muddled stance. Ukrainian and Russian pov: a-okay. Israeli settlers in the west Bank shooting unarmed palistinians: also a-okay. Hamas: no-bueno. Somebody make it make sense. I'd ask there but of course the thread was already locked.

wizerdrobe 3y ago
Is there any advertiser pushback on Hamas content, since they are not a proper State?
- morkalork 3y ago
  I think if we're gonna start picking and choosing which murder porn is okay based on state backing, we may as well start up the hunger games.
dannydowonahn1 3y ago
The difference is only one of those four examples is an internationally designated terror organization.
- ffgjgf1 3y ago
  One of those states is also an internationally recognized “state sponsor of terrorism” so it’s not that far off
- lucideer 3y ago
  Another of those four examples is internationally designated as a violation of the 4th Geneva Convention under UNSC Resolution 2334. I don't think one can say that international condemnation is particularly unique to any of them.
- cyanydeez 3y ago
  If Russia didn't usurp USSRs UN seat, they'd be designated a terrorist state.
  - vetinari 3y ago
    Russia didn't usurp anything; they are legally USSR ancestor state. They also got all of USSR's debts.
webmobdev 3y ago
If I remember right, Reddit hired somebody who was formerly at NSA or Pentagon. Posting anything anti-Ukranian or pro-Russian gets heavily censored. Not surprised that it happens with Hamas too, as the US provoked a civil war between Fatah and Hamas by openly and publicly favouring Fatah. They hate Hamas.
ybessyehs654 3y ago
"Israeli settlers in the west Bank shooting unarmed palistinians" What are you talking about? I can't find any video you're describing https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/search?q=palestinians https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/search?q=palestinians

d0mine 3y ago

The article says the opposite sides use the app, not just one side pushing their propaganda (naturally, that along is enough to blame for "misinformation"). Great app.

attentive 3y ago

I find telegram lacking in two major ways: 1. Can't block annoying posters 2. No functional website For these reasons I avoid it if possible.

wsgeorge 3y ago
> No functional website You surely don't mean web.telegram.com isn't functional?
- attentive 3y ago
  What I meant is t.me site with "channel previews". web.telegram.com redirects to www.usatoday.com You probably meant web.telegram.org which is well hidden and nowhere to be found on their web site so I didn't know about it. Thanks for that. The point on blocking still remains. You wouldn't have solution for that as well? :)
  - lucideer 3y ago
    > web.telegram.com redirects to www.usatoday.com ... why? > The point on blocking still remains That would be a cool feature - they take feature requests at https://bugs.telegram.org/ https://bugs.telegram.org/ - I'm not aware of any competing apps that have it so it's possible noone has requested this before. Seems novel.
    - graynk 3y ago
      > I'm not aware of any competing apps that have it Discord has that, though I wouldn't call it Telegram's competitor
    - attentive 3y ago
      > I'm not aware of any competing apps twitter?
    - boeingUH60 3y ago
      > Why? Telegram.com belongs to Telegram & Gazette, a newspaper owned by Gannett. Gannett also owns USA Today. The Telegram app has always used Telegram.org.