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what is happening in Youtube world?
by nopurpose 3y ago
what is happening in Youtube world?
- Macha 3y agoPeople claiming (via manual reports or via content ID) content that is not theirs to either obtain other people's ad revenue or cause the takedown of content they disagree with
- jabroni_salad 3y agoThis one happened just a month ago so it might be what the parent comment is referring to. Basically, somebody made a fake company to make bogus copyright claims against someone to hurt their channel. Youtube refuses to deliver counterclaims unless the YTer puts their government name on it (he originally tried to deliver it via an attorney). Additionally, the other party is actively trying to compromise the YTer's other accounts and identity to damage him, so any new data point given to this person represents risk. I don't really care for this YTer (they made a video essay about someone who doesn't really want to be in the media circus anymore, could just MYOB) but the methods documented in this video can be used to doxx any user that uploads a video. All you gotta do is convince youtube that you own some piece of common non-royalty media that a youtuber uses to gain leverage on them. A lot of this kind of media is old with unfindable owners, so even if YT does want to spend the time to validate, there's nowhere to go with it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hixwIOd_C44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hixwIOd_C44
- omscs99 3y agoWhat I don’t get is this: why does youtube still have such a monopoly after all this time? It’s had a shitty reputation since I can remember, why don’t creators just band together and take their viewership somewhere less hostile?
- pseudalopex 3y agoMany people with YouTube channels are on TikTok, Twitch, Patreon, Nebula also. But leaving YouTube would reduce their incomes.
- viridian 3y agoNot sure if its what the poster above is talking about, but there's definitely a hash collision type attack that's common on Youtube with regards to classical music. The attacker in question uploads very standard renditions of thousands of pieces of classical music, and claims copyright on them. Content ID then flags any video using one of these pieces as potentially violating the rights of the rightholder. The attacker then claims the video, and claims revenue on the video rather than taking it down. There's an appeal process which seems to work about 0% of the time, and after that the only recourse the uploader has is to submit a copyright counter notification, which becomes the start of a potential lawsuit. The attackers in question will then typically relent if challenged with a copyright counter claim, but most videos don't get counter claimed once this happened. This pattern of behavior seems so common that it has led to two interesting patterns of behavior that I've seen. 1) Any video that uses popular public domain music will be claimed not once, but dozens or hundreds of times, because there are so many channels operating this way now, and 2) If you post a video and immediately get hit with a huge wave of claims, rather than going through Youtube's process, most uploaders just delete the video, remove whatever audio caused the problem, and reupload.
- flkenosad 3y agoWow what a mess. At what point do we move on from copyright laws? Or more broadly intellectual property, in general. Even the words "intellectual property" sound ridiculous together when you think about it.