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Words matter, though. Why call it a sprint if it's not supposed to be anything sprinting? We can literally call it anything we want, so why not pick a better m

by rpeden 3y ago

Words matter, though. Why call it a sprint if it's not supposed to be anything sprinting? We can literally call it anything we want, so why not pick a better metaphor? I think that many developers who say they dislike Agile really mean they dislike Scrum. I mean, a rugby scrum is pretty violent, and sprinting non-stop is a good way of dying of exhaustion. Come to think of it, some managers do seem to want the workplace to be a ruthless battleground with worker pitted against worker in a relentless flat-out sprint to seen as a "high performer".

nradov 3y ago
The Scaled Agile Framework (SAFe) simply calls it an iteration. This is a neutral term with no implications about the pace of work. https://scaledagileframework.com/iterations/ https://scaledagileframework.com/iterations/
- __loam 3y ago
  SAFe is a failed ideology: https://seandexter1.medium.com/beware-safe-the-scaled-agile-framework-for-enterprise-an-unholy-incarnation-of-darkness-bf6819f6943f https://seandexter1.medium.com/beware-safe-the-scaled-agile-...
  - nradov 3y ago
    There's nothing ideological about SAFe. It's simply a collection of best practices which work reasonably well in most organizations. You can pick and choose which pieces to adopt and which to ignore. Like any methodology, it can't compensate for toxic management, technical incompetence, or lack of product market fit. If you don't like SAFe then please be specific. Which parts of it don't work if actually followed as documented?
    - __loam 3y ago
      I literally linked an article going through why SAFe is MBA garbage that misunderstands why agile was created in the first place but if that's not specific enough for you then I'm not sure what you're looking for.
      - nradov 3y ago
        That article is garbage with no specifics. I don't know why you bothered to link it.
sodapopcan 3y ago
Many people call it an "iteration". > I think that many developers who say they dislike Agile really mean they dislike Scrum. True say.
lambersley 3y ago
Perception. Interpretation. Either way, "sprint" is intended to imply short burst, definite endpoint that can be seen. A Burndown is about measured capacity. The only actual speed that matters is time to failure, i.e. "fail fast".
tetha 3y ago
If I recall right, Sprint originated from Extreme Programming, a predecessor to current agile methods. In XP, there was very much the idea of spending time to prepare for a sprint. Get requirements and preconditions worked out, clear out possible distractions.. Then you'd use a 1 - 2 week long sprint (aka actual crunch time) to knock out 80 - 90% of a feature with everyone on the team under high pressure and positive, constructive stress. And then you'd have some time after the sprint to work with low pressure, clean up technical debt, consolidate and build up for the next sprint. And honestly, that's a pretty effective way to work if you plan and gear up for it.

by rpeden 3y ago

nradov 3y ago

The Scaled Agile Framework (SAFe) simply calls it an iteration. This is a neutral term with no implications about the pace of work. https://scaledagileframework.com/iterations/ https://scaledagileframework.com/iterations/

__loam 3y ago
SAFe is a failed ideology: https://seandexter1.medium.com/beware-safe-the-scaled-agile-framework-for-enterprise-an-unholy-incarnation-of-darkness-bf6819f6943f https://seandexter1.medium.com/beware-safe-the-scaled-agile-...
- nradov 3y ago
  There's nothing ideological about SAFe. It's simply a collection of best practices which work reasonably well in most organizations. You can pick and choose which pieces to adopt and which to ignore. Like any methodology, it can't compensate for toxic management, technical incompetence, or lack of product market fit. If you don't like SAFe then please be specific. Which parts of it don't work if actually followed as documented?
  - __loam 3y ago
    I literally linked an article going through why SAFe is MBA garbage that misunderstands why agile was created in the first place but if that's not specific enough for you then I'm not sure what you're looking for.
    - nradov 3y ago
      That article is garbage with no specifics. I don't know why you bothered to link it.

sodapopcan 3y ago

Many people call it an "iteration". > I think that many developers who say they dislike Agile really mean they dislike Scrum. True say.

lambersley 3y ago

Perception. Interpretation. Either way, "sprint" is intended to imply short burst, definite endpoint that can be seen. A Burndown is about measured capacity. The only actual speed that matters is time to failure, i.e. "fail fast".

tetha 3y ago

If I recall right, Sprint originated from Extreme Programming, a predecessor to current agile methods. In XP, there was very much the idea of spending time to prepare for a sprint. Get requirements and preconditions worked out, clear out possible distractions.. Then you'd use a 1 - 2 week long sprint (aka actual crunch time) to knock out 80 - 90% of a feature with everyone on the team under high pressure and positive, constructive stress. And then you'd have some time after the sprint to work with low pressure, clean up technical debt, consolidate and build up for the next sprint. And honestly, that's a pretty effective way to work if you plan and gear up for it.