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>"Harvard Economics professor Jason Furman ’92 shared a similar statement on X, writing that he had been contacted by a student who had been doxxed despite no l
by jassyr 3y ago
>"Harvard Economics professor Jason Furman ’92 shared a similar statement on X, writing that he had been contacted by a student who had been doxxed despite no longer attending Harvard or affiliating with the co-signing group."
Undeniable tragedy what happened, innocent lives lost and countless more will die in this war, but accusing and doxxing innocent people whose lives will be overturned seems like the wrong approach here.
- sneak 3y ago[flagged]
- jassyr 3y agoTruck doxxer maybe won't be arrested, but a defamation/libel civil case is likely. Especially with now CEOs calling for blacklisting. Ones reputation can be totally destroyed being falsely accused. Emotions are high right now, but destroying more innocent lives isn't the answer.
- sneak 3y agoBeing 100% factually accurate in your statements is an airtight defense against libel in the USA.
- jassyr 3y agoI think you missed the part about a student no longer attending Harvard nor being part of the organization.
- polygamous_bat 3y agoGreat! If you read the article instead of trying to incite a flame war you would know that they have already doxxed people falsely, and so your statement doesn’t apply at all.
- tannedNerd 3y agoIt’s also an anonymous source to a student newspaper. I wouldn’t exactly hold them to the highest editorial standard. They just they confirmed they saw emails which anyone could have sent. Did they look at the message headers or request IPs from the provider.
- polygamous_bat 3y ago> It’s also an anonymous source to a student newspaper. I wouldn’t exactly hold them to the highest editorial standard. It’s the Harvard Crimson, not Boondook High Weekly. I would be incredibly surprised if their editors are not graduating and entering the countries top newspapers every year.
- polygamous_bat 3y agoDoxxing is always weird because there is no real violence until there is – it’s all implied violence – so online trolls can hide behind the facade of “I didn’t touch you!” The people signing the doc are already public, a truck roaming around with their face on it is just organized harassment at that point. Didn’t think I would see a pro-doxxing content here, but what do I know.
- sneak 3y agoI don’t think publicizing someone’s views (if you think them repugnant) is implied violence at all, nor is it harassment. Perhaps they want their community to shun them, which is a good and noble resolution to the general problem of someone exhibiting abhorrent behavior (note that I am not of an opinion on whether or not this original behavior is abhorrent). They doxxed themselves when they published their views. The truck people are simply amplifying their statements.
- polygamous_bat 3y agoYou don’t think if Elon Musk tweets tomorrow “@polygamous_bat doesn’t like X, or dogecoins! His phone number is 0123 and address is XYZ”, that’s harassment? None of what he would say is false, but by amplifying it to his audience of trolls he just increases the chance of something “accidentally” happening to me. Same here. Whether you say something or not, putting your face on a billboard is guaranteed to attract crazies. If your opponent is spending a million dollar to give that treatment to literal college kids, it doesn’t take a genius to see who the evil is.
- sneak 3y agoYes, it is quite obvious that the evil are the “crazies” (your term) that see a billboard and decide to do someone harm (and decidedly not the publisher of the billboard).
- polygamous_bat 3y agoYes of course, it lets you wash your hand off of all responsibility. Reminder to anyone else who is not so trigger happy to dox people: Stochastic Terrorism exists [0] and so does the tale of the “Meddlesome priest”[1]. It’s a trick as old as time, you’re not doing anything novel or clever, and your tactics are obvious to everyone. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_terrorism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_terrorism [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_no_one_rid_me_of_this_turbulent_priest%3F https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_no_one_rid_me_of_this_t...
- SamoyedFurFluff 3y agoI don’t think I should be accused of supporting terrorist actions because I joined an anti Zionist group in my freshman year and I’ve since graduated and had no affiliations with them since, or something like this. Also I’m not an anti Zionist, and I’m pretty ignorant about this sort of thing, so I don’t really have an opinion. But like, college kids can have dumb opinions that they grow out of. Are they fundraising for hamas? Are they trying to give info to terrorists? Or can this be solved with calling someone’s mom and having her chew them out about spouting stupid shit in public?
- mh8h 3y agoThe student groups signed the letter as legal entities. But not every single member of those groups necessarily agreed to it. Members of at least some of those group were not even notified about the letter.
- tannedNerd 3y agoThere is an easy solution if a group does something you don’t agree with. Post your disagreement with the group and that you are leaving.
- orwin 3y agoSo you can only be part of groups you 100% agree with? I wouldn't care enough to 'post my disagreement', especially when I was a student, I had other stuff to care about.
- benterix 3y agoThe groups I belong to do many things I wouldn't do. Some of them I'm sure I wouldn't do. As for others, I'm not sure as I don't have enough data and time to verify them. So you imply I should leave them all? In this case nobody could belong to any group because sooner or later any group can do at least one thing you wouldn't do.
- tguvot 3y agoif they drink bud light while you prefer ipa, i guess you can get over it. if there are more serious moral dilemmas, then yea. you probably should evaluate compatibility.
- _lqaf 3y agoSo who paid for the truck? You must agree that getting more of these good and useful tools in play would be positive, right? So who was it?
- lergkjlrkhjklrh 3y ago[dead]
- klesirg34t 3y agoDEATH TO NAZIS! KILL YOURSELF!
- merpnderp 3y agoThey’re lucky Antifa stopped punching, doxxing, and harassing people who explicitly espouse anti-Jewish sentiment.
- polotics 3y agocitation needed. about them ever having done it, as an organised policy. also: beautiful propaganda, the way you formulated it with the famous "have you stopped" trick, making denial ambiguous.
- djitz 3y ago2023 version of 9/11. I recall Indian shop owners being dragged out and beaten for a while after that fateful day.