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Teens Love LinkedIn

36 points by laurex 3y ago

singularity2001 3y ago
Is this part of a submarine advertisement campaign? I've seen three similar post in the last 24 hours.
- red-iron-pine 3y ago
  social media is drying out and needs to get more growth. gotta flog it. anecdotally, none of the under-20 folks I know (nephews, neighbors, etc.), touch it. tiktok and insta rule the roost, with FB marketplace taking over for craigslist, and reddit for most other stuff.
mikece 3y ago
This does raise the question, especially since more people are being laid off: what is the best website for technical talent to advertise their availability?
- digging 3y ago
  Probably this one, if you've built something you can show off. If not, you're just fucked. (I'm fucked.)
  - sosodev 3y ago
    You're not fucked if you don't post projects to HN. Tons of tech workers don't use HN and get along just fine.
    - deleted 3y ago
      [deleted]
- sosodev 3y ago
  LinkedIn helped me network and find new roles after both of my recent layoffs.
- standardUser 3y ago
  LinkedIn is absolutely useful in job hunting. If you have a big enough network you can likely find someone who know someone at any given company you might be interested in.
- sealeck 3y ago
  Real life usually works best IME.
- red-iron-pine 3y ago
  github
PaulHoule 3y ago
I quit LinkedIn because it brought too many hucksters, idea people who got in the way of execution, and salespeople who couldn't sell into my life. BUT: it is one of the most emotionally positive places in social media. My son, aged 21, swears by Craigslist, however.
- kristopolous 3y ago
  ... for what?
  - PaulHoule 3y ago
    Forums
ourmandave 3y ago
Can confirm, my daughter loves LinkedIn. For professional and social networking.
forinti 3y ago
LinkedIn positivity seems a bit artifical to me. Everybody is passionate about their jobs and seems so happy to be laid off on Christmas Eve because it will lead to better things. Of course it's just personal marketing, but I still find it a bit exaggerated.
- irq 3y ago
  Most of it is artificial. The term people seem to use to describe this is toxic positivity.
- dingnuts 3y ago
  a bit exaggerated? it's downright unhinged. I read some of the most insane takes on LinkedIn and never, ever post, but it's highly entertaining, if kind of horrifying sometimes. an example: a whole thread of managers and HR people celebrating a proposed Slack plugin that does sentiment analysis on every message & automatically reports you to HR if you're insufficiently enthusiastic (or god forbid, use sarcasm) when talking to your boss or reports did I post about what a horrible idea that is? hell no! that might affect my livelihood! and so the deranged circlejerk went on unchallenged, as I closed my tab and quietly prayed I would never have to work with any of these absolute maniacs
- geodel 3y ago
  Current job keep me occupied more than I'd like otherwise I'd parable the shit out of every minute of work day. Linkedin seems heaven for parody loving, sarcastic people like me.
  - colpabar 3y ago
    I hope you can find the time. I really wish all social media could go back to being unserious places for unserious people to say unserious things, rather than the totally serious and important mess we have now.
- swatcoder 3y ago
  > LinkedIn positivity seems a bit artifical to me. Every time somebody participates in a community, they take on a role in that community's story and that role has a certain shape. Many people behind the posts here on HN are far less serious than what's suggested by their posts because the community sees humor as too easy a way to derail curiosity and intellectualized dialog. And people are generally more contrarian here than off-site because the community celebrates a good and interesting debate as a way to raise and explore questions. etc etc Is a HN user being artificial when they choose not to be snarky? Are they being artificial when they pick into an argument they'd have shrugged off elsewhere. It's no different at LinkedIn. It's tone of positivity may not suit you, but it's not really a different kind of behavior than you see here or on Facebook or Reddit or whatever.
DueDilligence 3y ago
.. both my 20-somethings agree with me, LI is a tired old joke in the facebook category.
MarkMarine 3y ago
Sounds similar to why I love it here.
laristine 3y ago
https://archive.ph/rVso5 https://archive.ph/rVso5
pacifika 3y ago
Don’t social where you do business.
- neogodless 3y ago
  It may dismay you to learn the amount of business which is social.
  - pacifika 3y ago
    You’re totally right of course. Thanks for the feedback, just what I needed to hear.
jimnotgym 3y ago
Teens must love having a network of recruitment consultants offering them candidates and management consultants offering them cost savings. Teens must really need a FX dealer and a new phone system. Maybe they need digital transformation? That is all LinkedIn is to me. Service businesses slapping each other on the back
morkalork 3y ago
Looking at LinkedIn makes me depressed and the only time I look at LinkedIn is when I'm dissatisfied with my job. It's not healthy for my brain.
excitom 3y ago
I think a key is that you need to provide your real identity and you are discouraged from trolling/being a jerk since future employers and coworkers will see it on display.
cmrdporcupine 3y ago
LinkedIn has spent the last few years becoming the same kind of engagement hype-trap as anywhere else and as a result it's just an awful place. Back when it first launched it was nice to have just as a way to maintain contacts and occasionally message someone or keep in touch. But clearly nobody was going to make money that way, so they're pouring on the same crap as propagated by Facebook and friends. It's a depressing place to go, full of fake positivity and MBA-speak. And yet I'm compelled to go there to keep on top of what my peers are doing. And for people who are unemployed or out of the job market for any amount of time, it can be positively (see what I did there?) soul crushing. They tune in there and look and see all these people they used to know or work with showing off their fancy job titles and daily affirmations, while they struggle to get their resume in front of the faces of people. And what they originally came there for was to get in touch with connections or look for jobs, they go away discouraged. I'd like something to take hold closer to what the original LinkedIn seemed to be poking at. Contact lists, basic messaging, and job postings. And just charge a very basic annual fee or something instead of dumping ads and engagement algorithms on me? (Oh, and go off the beaten track and click down the wrong path and you'll quickly find the same pile of QAnon-ish garbage as every other barely-moderated engagement hacking social media site ...)
aidenn0 3y ago
I still have resisted signing up for LinkedIn because I'm so salty about how they used to spam everybody's contact list on sign-up. At one point I would get 3-5 e-mails per day from LinkedIn.
- lusus_naturae 3y ago
  Maybe set a filter or a rule to send their emails to junk or another mailbox? Rules for email services are the best.
  - aidenn0 3y ago
    I was complaining about someone smacking me in the head and you recommended I wear a helmet. It's not wrong, it just misses the main thrust of my comment.
    - lusus_naturae 3y ago
      I don't think rules are akin to helmets in your analogy, I think more like having a dummy head that gets hit instead :)
Animats 3y ago
For teens, it's an entry to the real world of work. So this makes sense.
rollulus 3y ago
I absolute hate how people behave on LinkedIn. Virtue signaling and humble bragging. With “the crying CEO” a prime example. It’s as fake as all the other social media.
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
- benjaminwootton 3y ago
  What makes it worse is that it’s tied to your professional life, so you can either opt out (which is not without its downsides) or you have to play the game in the same ridiculously fake way.
- standardUser 3y ago
  Do you hate how people act in job interviews? Or how they craft their resumes? It's all the same to me, a neccesary type of play-acting designed to make it look like we are safe to hire and that there is no possible way anything is wrong with us or we would ever think or say anything negative, ever!
  - lusus_naturae 3y ago
    What do you expect to see on a resume or cv? DSM-5 like breakdown of personality traits and characteristics? Maybe some startup can sell that as a service. The toxic positivity or virtue signaling on LI posts crosses the border from "showing my best self" to delusional. The crying posts are particularly cringy.
    - standardUser 3y ago
      I don't see it as any more or less cringey than the always-smiling interview bullshitter or the every-word-is-designed-to-make-me-sound-good resume writer. I don't enjoy it, but to imagine a world where it wasn't neccesary is to imagine a radically different world.
      - 3y ago
jackcosgrove 3y ago
If this means teens/Gen Z are moving past the irony and funny zingers on social media, I'm all for it. I'm pretty tired of witty repartee at this point. LinkedIn is social media schmaltz, and sometimes schmaltz is good.
linuxftw 3y ago
There's nothing newsworthy or interesting here. This is some 'journalist's' creative writing project.
m3kw9 3y ago
LinkedIn posts are even more clear about the incentives on why people post what they post, they just want to move up the ladder
benjaminwootton 3y ago
This might be the first time that an Instagram link has been posted on HN, but this LinkedIn parody made me laugh today - https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cw2_JREu_PY/ https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cw2_JREu_PY/
- PeterWhittaker 3y ago
  Love it!
sakopov 3y ago
I think any social network where the content is curated by some meaningful metric is going to do well in general. LinkedIn is curated by expectations of the corporate culture. If your content is positive (not necessarily helpful as is the case with LinkedIn majority of the time) you look more employable. And with LinkedIn becoming the de facto standard for orgs in their due-diligence on potential employees, the quality of your content can really help or hurt your future prospects. Other social networks like HN and SO operate in a similar way but slightly different curation metrics.
syndicatedjelly 3y ago
Here's a ublock origin script that I lifted from another HN post (sorry can't remember which one). It makes LinkedIn less miserable to use: ! Hide LinkedIn feed only in the feed pages www.linkedin.com##.scaffold-finite-scroll--infinite.scaffold-finite-scroll:matches-path(/feed) www.linkedin.com##.feed-sort-toggle-dsa__wrapper:matches-path(/feed) ! Hide LinkedIn recommended www.linkedin.com##.scaffold-layout__aside[aria-label="Add to your feed"] ! Hide LinkedIn premium sponsor ads www.linkedin.com##.premium-upsell-link--extra-long ! Hide LinkedIn messages overlay www.linkedin.com##.msg-overlay-container-reflow.msg-overlay-container www.linkedin.com##.mb2.artdeco-card.community-panel ! Hide LinkedIn news module www.linkedin.com###feed-news-module
johnea 3y ago
Because children are naive and easy to trick? Why do you think product marketing in general is focused on youth?
kristopolous 3y ago
I keep waiting to see labor organization and unionization efforts using linkedin. It seems like a great place to form alternative organizational structures and advocate for them.
SanjayMehta 3y ago
LinkedIn is great as an automatically updated address book.
wink 3y ago
My literal face every time I read LinkedIn: o_O People (mostly from past jobs) who I have experienced as perfectly normal human beings you can have a normal conversation with (otherwise I wouldn't have connected them) evolve into completely fake engagement robots. For reference, I'm German, most of my contacts on LI are also German and this seems like some special hell usually reserved for super sweet artificial Americans with pretend niceness. (Not a dig at Americans in general, just in a professional public setting, if you ever heard about the "Germans are too brutally honest" meme you know what I mean.) Everything is super awesome and shallow, there's nothing social about it. Namaste :praying_hand_emoji:

Teens Love LinkedIn

36 points by laurex 3y ago

singularity2001 3y ago

Is this part of a submarine advertisement campaign? I've seen three similar post in the last 24 hours.

red-iron-pine 3y ago
social media is drying out and needs to get more growth. gotta flog it. anecdotally, none of the under-20 folks I know (nephews, neighbors, etc.), touch it. tiktok and insta rule the roost, with FB marketplace taking over for craigslist, and reddit for most other stuff.

mikece 3y ago

This does raise the question, especially since more people are being laid off: what is the best website for technical talent to advertise their availability?

digging 3y ago
Probably this one, if you've built something you can show off. If not, you're just fucked. (I'm fucked.)
- sosodev 3y ago
  You're not fucked if you don't post projects to HN. Tons of tech workers don't use HN and get along just fine.
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]
sosodev 3y ago
LinkedIn helped me network and find new roles after both of my recent layoffs.
standardUser 3y ago
LinkedIn is absolutely useful in job hunting. If you have a big enough network you can likely find someone who know someone at any given company you might be interested in.
sealeck 3y ago
Real life usually works best IME.
red-iron-pine 3y ago
github

PaulHoule 3y ago

I quit LinkedIn because it brought too many hucksters, idea people who got in the way of execution, and salespeople who couldn't sell into my life. BUT: it is one of the most emotionally positive places in social media. My son, aged 21, swears by Craigslist, however.

kristopolous 3y ago
... for what?
- PaulHoule 3y ago
  Forums

ourmandave 3y ago

Can confirm, my daughter loves LinkedIn. For professional and social networking.

forinti 3y ago

LinkedIn positivity seems a bit artifical to me. Everybody is passionate about their jobs and seems so happy to be laid off on Christmas Eve because it will lead to better things. Of course it's just personal marketing, but I still find it a bit exaggerated.

irq 3y ago
Most of it is artificial. The term people seem to use to describe this is toxic positivity.
dingnuts 3y ago
a bit exaggerated? it's downright unhinged. I read some of the most insane takes on LinkedIn and never, ever post, but it's highly entertaining, if kind of horrifying sometimes. an example: a whole thread of managers and HR people celebrating a proposed Slack plugin that does sentiment analysis on every message & automatically reports you to HR if you're insufficiently enthusiastic (or god forbid, use sarcasm) when talking to your boss or reports did I post about what a horrible idea that is? hell no! that might affect my livelihood! and so the deranged circlejerk went on unchallenged, as I closed my tab and quietly prayed I would never have to work with any of these absolute maniacs
geodel 3y ago
Current job keep me occupied more than I'd like otherwise I'd parable the shit out of every minute of work day. Linkedin seems heaven for parody loving, sarcastic people like me.
- colpabar 3y ago
  I hope you can find the time. I really wish all social media could go back to being unserious places for unserious people to say unserious things, rather than the totally serious and important mess we have now.
swatcoder 3y ago
> LinkedIn positivity seems a bit artifical to me. Every time somebody participates in a community, they take on a role in that community's story and that role has a certain shape. Many people behind the posts here on HN are far less serious than what's suggested by their posts because the community sees humor as too easy a way to derail curiosity and intellectualized dialog. And people are generally more contrarian here than off-site because the community celebrates a good and interesting debate as a way to raise and explore questions. etc etc Is a HN user being artificial when they choose not to be snarky? Are they being artificial when they pick into an argument they'd have shrugged off elsewhere. It's no different at LinkedIn. It's tone of positivity may not suit you, but it's not really a different kind of behavior than you see here or on Facebook or Reddit or whatever.

DueDilligence 3y ago

.. both my 20-somethings agree with me, LI is a tired old joke in the facebook category.

MarkMarine 3y ago

Sounds similar to why I love it here.

laristine 3y ago

https://archive.ph/rVso5 https://archive.ph/rVso5

pacifika 3y ago

Don’t social where you do business.

neogodless 3y ago
It may dismay you to learn the amount of business which is social.
- pacifika 3y ago
  You’re totally right of course. Thanks for the feedback, just what I needed to hear.

jimnotgym 3y ago

Teens must love having a network of recruitment consultants offering them candidates and management consultants offering them cost savings. Teens must really need a FX dealer and a new phone system. Maybe they need digital transformation? That is all LinkedIn is to me. Service businesses slapping each other on the back

morkalork 3y ago

Looking at LinkedIn makes me depressed and the only time I look at LinkedIn is when I'm dissatisfied with my job. It's not healthy for my brain.

excitom 3y ago

I think a key is that you need to provide your real identity and you are discouraged from trolling/being a jerk since future employers and coworkers will see it on display.

cmrdporcupine 3y ago

LinkedIn has spent the last few years becoming the same kind of engagement hype-trap as anywhere else and as a result it's just an awful place. Back when it first launched it was nice to have just as a way to maintain contacts and occasionally message someone or keep in touch. But clearly nobody was going to make money that way, so they're pouring on the same crap as propagated by Facebook and friends. It's a depressing place to go, full of fake positivity and MBA-speak. And yet I'm compelled to go there to keep on top of what my peers are doing. And for people who are unemployed or out of the job market for any amount of time, it can be positively (see what I did there?) soul crushing. They tune in there and look and see all these people they used to know or work with showing off their fancy job titles and daily affirmations, while they struggle to get their resume in front of the faces of people. And what they originally came there for was to get in touch with connections or look for jobs, they go away discouraged. I'd like something to take hold closer to what the original LinkedIn seemed to be poking at. Contact lists, basic messaging, and job postings. And just charge a very basic annual fee or something instead of dumping ads and engagement algorithms on me? (Oh, and go off the beaten track and click down the wrong path and you'll quickly find the same pile of QAnon-ish garbage as every other barely-moderated engagement hacking social media site ...)

aidenn0 3y ago

I still have resisted signing up for LinkedIn because I'm so salty about how they used to spam everybody's contact list on sign-up. At one point I would get 3-5 e-mails per day from LinkedIn.

lusus_naturae 3y ago
Maybe set a filter or a rule to send their emails to junk or another mailbox? Rules for email services are the best.
- aidenn0 3y ago
  I was complaining about someone smacking me in the head and you recommended I wear a helmet. It's not wrong, it just misses the main thrust of my comment.
  - lusus_naturae 3y ago
    I don't think rules are akin to helmets in your analogy, I think more like having a dummy head that gets hit instead :)

Animats 3y ago

For teens, it's an entry to the real world of work. So this makes sense.

rollulus 3y ago

I absolute hate how people behave on LinkedIn. Virtue signaling and humble bragging. With “the crying CEO” a prime example. It’s as fake as all the other social media.

deleted 3y ago
[deleted]
benjaminwootton 3y ago
What makes it worse is that it’s tied to your professional life, so you can either opt out (which is not without its downsides) or you have to play the game in the same ridiculously fake way.
standardUser 3y ago
Do you hate how people act in job interviews? Or how they craft their resumes? It's all the same to me, a neccesary type of play-acting designed to make it look like we are safe to hire and that there is no possible way anything is wrong with us or we would ever think or say anything negative, ever!
- lusus_naturae 3y ago
  What do you expect to see on a resume or cv? DSM-5 like breakdown of personality traits and characteristics? Maybe some startup can sell that as a service. The toxic positivity or virtue signaling on LI posts crosses the border from "showing my best self" to delusional. The crying posts are particularly cringy.
  - standardUser 3y ago
    I don't see it as any more or less cringey than the always-smiling interview bullshitter or the every-word-is-designed-to-make-me-sound-good resume writer. I don't enjoy it, but to imagine a world where it wasn't neccesary is to imagine a radically different world.
    - 3y ago

jackcosgrove 3y ago

If this means teens/Gen Z are moving past the irony and funny zingers on social media, I'm all for it. I'm pretty tired of witty repartee at this point. LinkedIn is social media schmaltz, and sometimes schmaltz is good.

linuxftw 3y ago

There's nothing newsworthy or interesting here. This is some 'journalist's' creative writing project.

m3kw9 3y ago

LinkedIn posts are even more clear about the incentives on why people post what they post, they just want to move up the ladder

benjaminwootton 3y ago

This might be the first time that an Instagram link has been posted on HN, but this LinkedIn parody made me laugh today - https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cw2_JREu_PY/ https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cw2_JREu_PY/

PeterWhittaker 3y ago
Love it!

sakopov 3y ago

I think any social network where the content is curated by some meaningful metric is going to do well in general. LinkedIn is curated by expectations of the corporate culture. If your content is positive (not necessarily helpful as is the case with LinkedIn majority of the time) you look more employable. And with LinkedIn becoming the de facto standard for orgs in their due-diligence on potential employees, the quality of your content can really help or hurt your future prospects. Other social networks like HN and SO operate in a similar way but slightly different curation metrics.

syndicatedjelly 3y ago

Here's a ublock origin script that I lifted from another HN post (sorry can't remember which one). It makes LinkedIn less miserable to use: ! Hide LinkedIn feed only in the feed pages www.linkedin.com##.scaffold-finite-scroll--infinite.scaffold-finite-scroll:matches-path(/feed) www.linkedin.com##.feed-sort-toggle-dsa__wrapper:matches-path(/feed) ! Hide LinkedIn recommended www.linkedin.com##.scaffold-layout__aside[aria-label="Add to your feed"] ! Hide LinkedIn premium sponsor ads www.linkedin.com##.premium-upsell-link--extra-long ! Hide LinkedIn messages overlay www.linkedin.com##.msg-overlay-container-reflow.msg-overlay-container www.linkedin.com##.mb2.artdeco-card.community-panel ! Hide LinkedIn news module www.linkedin.com###feed-news-module

johnea 3y ago

Because children are naive and easy to trick? Why do you think product marketing in general is focused on youth?

kristopolous 3y ago

I keep waiting to see labor organization and unionization efforts using linkedin. It seems like a great place to form alternative organizational structures and advocate for them.

SanjayMehta 3y ago

LinkedIn is great as an automatically updated address book.

wink 3y ago

My literal face every time I read LinkedIn: o_O People (mostly from past jobs) who I have experienced as perfectly normal human beings you can have a normal conversation with (otherwise I wouldn't have connected them) evolve into completely fake engagement robots. For reference, I'm German, most of my contacts on LI are also German and this seems like some special hell usually reserved for super sweet artificial Americans with pretend niceness. (Not a dig at Americans in general, just in a professional public setting, if you ever heard about the "Germans are too brutally honest" meme you know what I mean.) Everything is super awesome and shallow, there's nothing social about it. Namaste :praying_hand_emoji: