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Dear EU: I disagree about "hosting illegal content". What we're seeing is uncomfortable and [more] unfiltered by governments. Rather than covering up what a tra

Dear EU: I disagree about "hosting illegal content". What we're seeing is uncomfortable and [more] unfiltered by governments. Rather than covering up what a tragedy war is, how about we work to avoid it?

lm28469 3y ago
> What we're seeing is uncomfortable and [more] unfiltered by governments. If it was only about sharing graphic content I'd be on your side, but for every "uncomfortable" image you have 300 bot accounts spreading straight up fabricated images and information The few times I go on twitter I keep wondering if it isn't just 90% bots spamming content made to trigger real users and real users believing whatever flavor of bullshit they're fed today Twitter is the last link of information before going on CNN &co, it's garbage tier in every aspect you can think of and there are dozens of better places to see uncomfortable and unfiltered content. People think they get the truth there but they're just one layer down in the thousands layer onion of misinformation
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
  > The few times I go on twitter I keep wondering if it isn't just 90% bots spamming content made to trigger real users and real users believing whatever flavor of bullshit they're fed today That is my takeaway as well. Every feature of the site is abused at scale to flood the zone with shit. It's like trying to have a discussion inside of a wind tunnel.
- exabrial 3y ago
  > 90% bots spamming content made to trigger real users I have no doubt a significant portion of that is true > content made to trigger However, this is what major news outlets do, usually at the request of a political party or faction
  - lm28469 3y ago
    > However, this is what major news outlets do, usually at the request of a political party or faction Of course that's why both should be avoided like the plague. Self proclaimed free thinkers who moved from fox/cnn to twitter.com/elonmusk and think the get the real truth™ are as dumb as it gets
- carbine 3y ago
  I hear this criticism but it always seems to be from people who claim to rarely go on Twitter. I use it all the time and see basically zero bot content. My feed is full of high quality info and it's been a far better source than most mainstream news over the past few days. Faster, more nuanced, and quicker to self-correct. Community Notes seem, on balance, pretty effective.
sdfghswe 3y ago
What is the argument for why disseminating disinformation does anyone any good?
- nradov 3y ago
  Maintaining freedom of expression is always of primary importance regardless of any negative consequences. There are only a very few limited circumstances where suppressing that is valid.
  - sdfghswe 3y ago
    Ok, and who decides what those very few limited circumstances are, and based on what criteria?
    - exabrial 3y ago
      Direct Threats of violence is the accepted minimal standard
      - kdwikzncba 3y ago
        [dead]
      - sdfghswe 3y ago
        ... in the US. You forgot that bit.
test098 3y ago
> Rather than covering up what a tragedy war is, how about we work to avoid it? how do you avoid it when the misinformation is intended to cause division, conflict, and war?

lm28469 3y ago

> What we're seeing is uncomfortable and [more] unfiltered by governments. If it was only about sharing graphic content I'd be on your side, but for every "uncomfortable" image you have 300 bot accounts spreading straight up fabricated images and information The few times I go on twitter I keep wondering if it isn't just 90% bots spamming content made to trigger real users and real users believing whatever flavor of bullshit they're fed today Twitter is the last link of information before going on CNN &co, it's garbage tier in every aspect you can think of and there are dozens of better places to see uncomfortable and unfiltered content. People think they get the truth there but they're just one layer down in the thousands layer onion of misinformation

2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
> The few times I go on twitter I keep wondering if it isn't just 90% bots spamming content made to trigger real users and real users believing whatever flavor of bullshit they're fed today That is my takeaway as well. Every feature of the site is abused at scale to flood the zone with shit. It's like trying to have a discussion inside of a wind tunnel.
exabrial 3y ago
> 90% bots spamming content made to trigger real users I have no doubt a significant portion of that is true > content made to trigger However, this is what major news outlets do, usually at the request of a political party or faction
- lm28469 3y ago
  > However, this is what major news outlets do, usually at the request of a political party or faction Of course that's why both should be avoided like the plague. Self proclaimed free thinkers who moved from fox/cnn to twitter.com/elonmusk and think the get the real truth™ are as dumb as it gets
carbine 3y ago
I hear this criticism but it always seems to be from people who claim to rarely go on Twitter. I use it all the time and see basically zero bot content. My feed is full of high quality info and it's been a far better source than most mainstream news over the past few days. Faster, more nuanced, and quicker to self-correct. Community Notes seem, on balance, pretty effective.

sdfghswe 3y ago

What is the argument for why disseminating disinformation does anyone any good?

nradov 3y ago
Maintaining freedom of expression is always of primary importance regardless of any negative consequences. There are only a very few limited circumstances where suppressing that is valid.
- sdfghswe 3y ago
  Ok, and who decides what those very few limited circumstances are, and based on what criteria?
  - exabrial 3y ago
    Direct Threats of violence is the accepted minimal standard
    - kdwikzncba 3y ago
      [dead]
    - sdfghswe 3y ago
      ... in the US. You forgot that bit.

test098 3y ago

> Rather than covering up what a tragedy war is, how about we work to avoid it? how do you avoid it when the misinformation is intended to cause division, conflict, and war?