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please feel free to vote me down into oblivion because, you know, "I'm wrong"... But I would prefer a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle over a battery-electric for a n

please feel free to vote me down into oblivion because, you know, "I'm wrong"... But I would prefer a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle over a battery-electric for a number of reasons. The first is theoretical recharge/refuel times, but the second is firefighter rescue personnel safety. BEVs are here-and-now technology though, and I don't oppose them, it's just I plan to wait until hydrogen technology matures and reaches deployment, or BEV finally solves those two problems.

tw04 3y ago
If you're worried about firefighters, I'm not sure why you think hydrogen would be the solution. Hydrogen fires are invisible to the human eye, and carry an extremely high risk of catastrophic explosion. While a lithium fire isn't great, it's more the issue of "this is going to ruin the roadway that it's burning on" than "the firefighter is going to die trying to put it out". https://www.osha.gov/green-jobs/hydrogen/fire-explosion#:~:text=lower%20flammability%20limit.-,Hydrogen%20used%20in%20the%20fuel%20cells%20is%20a%20very%20flammable,that%20a%20flame%20is%20present https://www.osha.gov/green-jobs/hydrogen/fire-explosion#:~:t....
- petre 3y ago
  The firefighters will mainly sit and watch while H2 gets vented or burns off. A lithium battery fire is much more worse, not even mentioning the smoke. https://youtu.be/OA8dNFiVaF0 https://youtu.be/OA8dNFiVaF0
cycrutchfield 3y ago
The rescue personnel will be safe because there won’t be anything of you left to rescue.
onethought 3y ago
But a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle has a battery that is cycled much more than a BEV (because it’s small). So a fuel cell vehicle has less durability not more. How can you have an opinion on firefighter rescue and personal safety when there is next to no comparable data on fuel cell vehicles?
1970-01-01 3y ago
Well..you are wrong. Firefighters are trained to understand battery fires. Here's one of the many online courses they take to do it. Perhaps if you take it you would gain peace of mind on the subject. https://fsri.org/research-update/online-training-available-science-fire-and-explosion-hazards-lithium-ion-batteries https://fsri.org/research-update/online-training-available-s...

tw04 3y ago

If you're worried about firefighters, I'm not sure why you think hydrogen would be the solution. Hydrogen fires are invisible to the human eye, and carry an extremely high risk of catastrophic explosion. While a lithium fire isn't great, it's more the issue of "this is going to ruin the roadway that it's burning on" than "the firefighter is going to die trying to put it out". https://www.osha.gov/green-jobs/hydrogen/fire-explosion#:~:text=lower%20flammability%20limit.-,Hydrogen%20used%20in%20the%20fuel%20cells%20is%20a%20very%20flammable,that%20a%20flame%20is%20present https://www.osha.gov/green-jobs/hydrogen/fire-explosion#:~:t....

petre 3y ago
The firefighters will mainly sit and watch while H2 gets vented or burns off. A lithium battery fire is much more worse, not even mentioning the smoke. https://youtu.be/OA8dNFiVaF0 https://youtu.be/OA8dNFiVaF0

cycrutchfield 3y ago

The rescue personnel will be safe because there won’t be anything of you left to rescue.

onethought 3y ago

But a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle has a battery that is cycled much more than a BEV (because it’s small). So a fuel cell vehicle has less durability not more. How can you have an opinion on firefighter rescue and personal safety when there is next to no comparable data on fuel cell vehicles?

1970-01-01 3y ago

Well..you are wrong. Firefighters are trained to understand battery fires. Here's one of the many online courses they take to do it. Perhaps if you take it you would gain peace of mind on the subject. https://fsri.org/research-update/online-training-available-science-fire-and-explosion-hazards-lithium-ion-batteries https://fsri.org/research-update/online-training-available-s...