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This is somewhat related as it's the next step of the above. The floating tongue of the USB connection is in the socket, not the on the cable. As in the most f
by AnotherGoodName 3y ago
This is somewhat related as it's the next step of the above.
The floating tongue of the USB connection is in the socket, not the on the cable. As in the most fragile part of the design is on the device side, not the cable side. This means that you can more easily break your $1000 device not the $2 cable. They repeated this mistake with USB-C as well.
It's not hard to make a port where the cable is the free floating tongue and the device is a more robust socket that wraps around that fragile piece. I know everyone's happy about the iPhone moving to USB-C but the tongue on the cable side that it had was much better. Anyone who's tripped on a cable and broken a USB socket can attest to this.
- mtoner23 3y agoIdk, lightning has the opposite problem where the contacts are exposed and degrade very quickly on the cable and need to be replaced constantly. Great for apple. And lightning has the gripping pins on the phone which degrade rather quickly too over repeated use. No cable is perfect I fear
- AnotherGoodName 3y agoFwiw as a known clutz i haven't yet broken a USB C socket, the worst i've done is gummed a socket up with pocket lint. The symmetry helps avoid as many issues. I did break USB A sockets though. They could easily be jammed in backwards and with the offset from center tongue and the cable perfectly designed to wedge in the wrong way and snap the tongue i did it far too often.
- nucleardog 3y agoUnless we go to something radically different then one side or the other is going to have the flimsy bits. For my money, I’d take a flimsy cable over a flimsy device port. Replacing a cable is a two minute trip to Amazon. Replacing a device port is a pricey and annoying trip to a repair shop or an evening with my soldering iron cursing the universe.
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- ngcc_hk 3y agoBasically buy 2 Lenovo X due to the broken usb-c power slot. There is a backup one but for business notebook you fly with you you really do not want a broken notebook.
- cyberax 3y agoThat's incorrect. USB-C design maximizes the device longevity by removing springs from the device that typically get worn down quickly. The cable is responsible for the grip. You do get a protruding tongue on the device side, but it's well protected.
- oblio 3y agoI broke mine on a S21. It's also getting wobbly on 2 Essential Phones. As OP said, now those 3 expensive devices are mostly broken or at risk instead of the cheap cable. It's bad design compared to the Lightning connector, and I don't like Apple...
- ShadowBanThis01 3y agoBe that as it may, the Lightning port's communications are shit and inferior to those of the ancient 30-pin iPod port. Lightning can't even deliver full HD video; the iPod port could. And what Lightning does deliver is compressed trash.
- ShadowBanThis01 3y agoFor the aggrieved downvoters: https://blog.panic.com/the-lightning-digital-av-adapter-surprise/ https://blog.panic.com/the-lightning-digital-av-adapter-surp...
- crote 3y agoIt's not really "bad design", it's an intentional tradeoff. Doing it the Lightning way makes it significantly more difficult to guarantee good signal integrity, especially once you get into USB 3 speeds and beyond. Not to mention exposing sensitive pins to all kinds of ESD shocks!
- elzbardico 3y agoMost repair shops are able to solder a new connector in the motherboard. You could try it.
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- qingcharles 3y agoI was surprised this mistake was made with USB-C. Surely a committee voted on this and knew what they were doing? Isn't Lightning the opposite way around?