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Must be expensive to run on Google Cloud. Also looks pretty complex. The stabilization step presumably does a video encode …. that’s extremely expensive in te

Must be expensive to run on Google Cloud. Also looks pretty complex. The stabilization step presumably does a video encode …. that’s extremely expensive in terms of time, compute and money I wonder why it’s necessary.

ericxtang 3y ago
We've been working on an alternative infrastructure and saves up to 80% on transcoding & delivery costmore affordable solution at Livepeer Studio (https://livepeer.studio/ https://livepeer.studio/). It uses un-utilized infrastructure around the world and incentivizes independent network operators to join the network (kind of like a 2-sided marketplace for video-specific compute). Please sign up for a free account and check it out! We'd love to get your feedback
tehlike 3y ago
I was thinking the same. CF on the front would improve on it but still. Hetzner or other bare metal providers would probably be a better idea.
- hotnfresh 3y ago
  CF meaning Cloudflare? If you’re serving video through them, then you’re in “enterprise plan” territory. You can’t do that on the free or “self-serve” paid plans. $5k+/m depending on bandwidth needs (and if you just need a cdn to push bits, CF won’t be competitive on price—their enterprise prices are tailored for companies that want all sorts of managed services and private networking stuff)
  - mikeryan 3y ago
    Um. Cloudflare stream starts at $5 per month and you don’t pay for encoding only storage and bandwidth. You can serve a decent video library for $500 per month. https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-stream/ https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-stream/
    - hotnfresh 3y ago
      Ah, must’ve changed up their billing structure to provide more add-ons for the self-serve plans since last time I was dealing them them. That’s good.
latchkey 3y ago
Not necessarily. GCP, when used correctly, can be super cheap. You also don't know the contractual deals they have with GCP.
klaussilveira 3y ago
I wonder if it wouldn't be cheaper to run an on-prem farm of BestBuy-grade "gamer PC" for smaller scale networks like that.
- andrewstuart 3y ago
  Slap one of these puppies in…. AMD Alveo MA35D Media Accelerator https://www.xilinx.com/applications/data-center/video-imaging/alveo-ma35d.html https://www.xilinx.com/applications/data-center/video-imagin...
  - goeiedaggoeie 3y ago
    Ive used xilinx a fair bit for encoding. once you get past the pain of compiling your tooling for it it does speed up VOD encode significantly.
    - dilyevsky 3y ago
      How’s the quality? I heard it was so-so and i think you can’t close your own presets
      - goeiedaggoeie 3y ago
        For what I have down (2k and down, main) the quality has been OK. I have also read some complaints about quality at high res, but I am a happy customer
- dilyevsky 3y ago
  Twitch used to use cheap cores with Intel quicksync and maybe still does
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alexandreolive 3y ago
Hello, I'm the writer of the article. Our solution gets videos from random people who present products we sent them. We get dodgy videos filmed on bad devices, and the process of contacting the user and getting him to re-upload another video in better quality is time-consuming for our team. We'd rather spend a little bit more in computing to try and save time overall. I hope this answers your question.

ericxtang 3y ago

We've been working on an alternative infrastructure and saves up to 80% on transcoding & delivery costmore affordable solution at Livepeer Studio (https://livepeer.studio/ https://livepeer.studio/). It uses un-utilized infrastructure around the world and incentivizes independent network operators to join the network (kind of like a 2-sided marketplace for video-specific compute). Please sign up for a free account and check it out! We'd love to get your feedback

tehlike 3y ago

I was thinking the same. CF on the front would improve on it but still. Hetzner or other bare metal providers would probably be a better idea.

hotnfresh 3y ago
CF meaning Cloudflare? If you’re serving video through them, then you’re in “enterprise plan” territory. You can’t do that on the free or “self-serve” paid plans. $5k+/m depending on bandwidth needs (and if you just need a cdn to push bits, CF won’t be competitive on price—their enterprise prices are tailored for companies that want all sorts of managed services and private networking stuff)
- mikeryan 3y ago
  Um. Cloudflare stream starts at $5 per month and you don’t pay for encoding only storage and bandwidth. You can serve a decent video library for $500 per month. https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-stream/ https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-stream/
  - hotnfresh 3y ago
    Ah, must’ve changed up their billing structure to provide more add-ons for the self-serve plans since last time I was dealing them them. That’s good.

latchkey 3y ago

Not necessarily. GCP, when used correctly, can be super cheap. You also don't know the contractual deals they have with GCP.

klaussilveira 3y ago

I wonder if it wouldn't be cheaper to run an on-prem farm of BestBuy-grade "gamer PC" for smaller scale networks like that.

andrewstuart 3y ago
Slap one of these puppies in…. AMD Alveo MA35D Media Accelerator https://www.xilinx.com/applications/data-center/video-imaging/alveo-ma35d.html https://www.xilinx.com/applications/data-center/video-imagin...
- goeiedaggoeie 3y ago
  Ive used xilinx a fair bit for encoding. once you get past the pain of compiling your tooling for it it does speed up VOD encode significantly.
  - dilyevsky 3y ago
    How’s the quality? I heard it was so-so and i think you can’t close your own presets
    - goeiedaggoeie 3y ago
      For what I have down (2k and down, main) the quality has been OK. I have also read some complaints about quality at high res, but I am a happy customer
dilyevsky 3y ago
Twitch used to use cheap cores with Intel quicksync and maybe still does

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alexandreolive 3y ago

Hello, I'm the writer of the article. Our solution gets videos from random people who present products we sent them. We get dodgy videos filmed on bad devices, and the process of contacting the user and getting him to re-upload another video in better quality is time-consuming for our team. We'd rather spend a little bit more in computing to try and save time overall. I hope this answers your question.