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Very well PUT (pun intended). Actually, isn't this how we exactly got where we are with Postman?

by jeanlucas 3y ago

anta40 3y ago
Any recommendation on open source alternative?
- dylanowen 3y ago
  I've been using https://github.com/bayne/dot-http https://github.com/bayne/dot-http but https://hurl.dev/ https://hurl.dev/ seems more full featured.
  - smt88 3y ago
    Neither of these have the convenience of the original Postman GUI and aren't really alternatives.
    - sphars 3y ago
      Bruno seems like a good up and coming candidate. Found about this one after all the insomnia drama a couple weeks ago https://github.com/usebruno/bruno https://github.com/usebruno/bruno
    - dylanowen 3y ago
      For creating requests the GUI of postman is way over the top. HTTP is so simple, why not just write that directly in a literate format you can checkin to a repo? For actually running the requests though I agree a gui is nice. I actually use dot-http as an embedded tool in a browser extension. They're still alternatives, just not in the style you're used to.
      - smt88 3y ago
        > HTTP is so simple So is email. The simplicity of a protocol has nothing to do with the complexity of the workflow that produces it. > why not just write that directly in a literate format you can checkin to a repo? Because nothing I work on in Postman is something I need to check in to a repo. I need to test HTTP requests, and I've never worked with a code base that had raw HTTP requests in it. > They're still alternatives, just not in the style you're used to. The "style" is different enough that entire use cases become impossible. Let's say I want to copy HTTP response headers out of a log in JSON format. In Postman, I can paste JSON (and various other key-value formats) into the headers field, and it automatically parses it for me. There are a hundred little conveniences like that that require a good GUI.
        dylanowen 3y ago
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- TheCapeGreek 3y ago
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- saikatsg 3y ago
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- isuleman 3y ago
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- warmuuh 3y ago
  https://github.com/warmuuh/milkman https://github.com/warmuuh/milkman
- archibaldJ 3y ago
  https://github.com/ArchGPT/insomnium https://github.com/ArchGPT/insomnium - and soon with local llm support disclaimer: I'm the maintainer and my day job is fine-tuning llm p.s. I will always keep insomnium 100% local & FOSS
- odnes_lex 3y ago
  Restfox works great for me. Might require installing a browser addon to circumvent CORS protection in order to run requests against localhost.
jkbr 3y ago
> closed source (despite their website proudly claiming "Open source") HTTPie CLI has been open-source for a decade. HTTPie Desktop has yet to be open-sourced. We first want to get the product, architecture, and codebase somewhat stable. As the README says, we use the GitHub repo to host releases and issues.
- salusinarduis 3y ago
  You gave this exact same answer to me in your Discord a year ago. If nothing sketchy is going on why not just open source the thing? At a minimum you should remove the banner at the bottom of the page claiming it's open source.
  - jkbr 3y ago
    > You gave this exact same answer to me in your Discord a year ago. If nothing sketchy is going on why not just open source the thing? We appreciate your interest, but we never gave an ETA. I do regret having made the intention public, though. > At a minimum you should remove the banner at the bottom of the page claiming it's open source. That’s a good point. As I wrote in another comment below: I’ve now updated the website template not to show the image with the slogan on this page. Thanks for the feedback.
    - salusinarduis 3y ago
      Good on you for altering the page. I very much hope to see the desktop client become open source soon, as I would very much like to use it. Best of luck with the project.
  - da39a3ee 3y ago
    I don't understand; why do you think it is "sketchy" to try to make a living out of software? (For reference, I work as a software engineer and am also the author of a popular open source project which I give away for free and have put thousands of hours into.)
    - 3y ago

Very well PUT (pun intended). Actually, isn't this how we exactly got where we are with Postman?

anta40 3y ago

Any recommendation on open source alternative?

dylanowen 3y ago
I've been using https://github.com/bayne/dot-http https://github.com/bayne/dot-http but https://hurl.dev/ https://hurl.dev/ seems more full featured.
- smt88 3y ago
  Neither of these have the convenience of the original Postman GUI and aren't really alternatives.
  - sphars 3y ago
    Bruno seems like a good up and coming candidate. Found about this one after all the insomnia drama a couple weeks ago https://github.com/usebruno/bruno https://github.com/usebruno/bruno
  - dylanowen 3y ago
    For creating requests the GUI of postman is way over the top. HTTP is so simple, why not just write that directly in a literate format you can checkin to a repo? For actually running the requests though I agree a gui is nice. I actually use dot-http as an embedded tool in a browser extension. They're still alternatives, just not in the style you're used to.
    - smt88 3y ago
      > HTTP is so simple So is email. The simplicity of a protocol has nothing to do with the complexity of the workflow that produces it. > why not just write that directly in a literate format you can checkin to a repo? Because nothing I work on in Postman is something I need to check in to a repo. I need to test HTTP requests, and I've never worked with a code base that had raw HTTP requests in it. > They're still alternatives, just not in the style you're used to. The "style" is different enough that entire use cases become impossible. Let's say I want to copy HTTP response headers out of a log in JSON format. In Postman, I can paste JSON (and various other key-value formats) into the headers field, and it automatically parses it for me. There are a hundred little conveniences like that that require a good GUI.
      - dylanowen 3y ago
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TheCapeGreek 3y ago
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saikatsg 3y ago
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isuleman 3y ago
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warmuuh 3y ago
https://github.com/warmuuh/milkman https://github.com/warmuuh/milkman
archibaldJ 3y ago
https://github.com/ArchGPT/insomnium https://github.com/ArchGPT/insomnium - and soon with local llm support disclaimer: I'm the maintainer and my day job is fine-tuning llm p.s. I will always keep insomnium 100% local & FOSS
odnes_lex 3y ago
Restfox works great for me. Might require installing a browser addon to circumvent CORS protection in order to run requests against localhost.

jkbr 3y ago

> closed source (despite their website proudly claiming "Open source") HTTPie CLI has been open-source for a decade. HTTPie Desktop has yet to be open-sourced. We first want to get the product, architecture, and codebase somewhat stable. As the README says, we use the GitHub repo to host releases and issues.

salusinarduis 3y ago
You gave this exact same answer to me in your Discord a year ago. If nothing sketchy is going on why not just open source the thing? At a minimum you should remove the banner at the bottom of the page claiming it's open source.
- jkbr 3y ago
  > You gave this exact same answer to me in your Discord a year ago. If nothing sketchy is going on why not just open source the thing? We appreciate your interest, but we never gave an ETA. I do regret having made the intention public, though. > At a minimum you should remove the banner at the bottom of the page claiming it's open source. That’s a good point. As I wrote in another comment below: I’ve now updated the website template not to show the image with the slogan on this page. Thanks for the feedback.
  - salusinarduis 3y ago
    Good on you for altering the page. I very much hope to see the desktop client become open source soon, as I would very much like to use it. Best of luck with the project.
- da39a3ee 3y ago
  I don't understand; why do you think it is "sketchy" to try to make a living out of software? (For reference, I work as a software engineer and am also the author of a popular open source project which I give away for free and have put thousands of hours into.)
  - 3y ago