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For ppl that don't know what is this, imagine a tech-oriented burning man with more infra since it's in the city and (usually) less nude ppl (at least that's th

For ppl that don't know what is this, imagine a tech-oriented burning man with more infra since it's in the city and (usually) less nude ppl (at least that's the impression I get)

danpalmer 3y ago
Also more anarchist politics, fewer tech bro libertarians.
- mikae1 3y ago
  In fact, most CCC participants would probably see the comparison with Burning Man as the greatest insult imaginable (and that's not because of the nude people).
  - danpalmer 3y ago
    Indeed. And from what I've heard the lack of nude people is probably highly dependent on which after parties you get invited to. Somewhere there's a venn diagram showing certain alternative communities with wide overlaps with CCC attendees.
    - falqun 3y ago
      Kink, chaos and poly/RA? :D
  - albertzeyer 3y ago
    Why do you think so? I have never been at Burning Man and know only little about it, but from this little impression, I actually also did this comparison when I described the CCC event, and I have been to many of those events. Despite the tech stuff, there is also lots of art, music and party, and a lot of crazy people (meant in a good way).
    - wink 3y ago
      I think the comparison with the old Burning Man is apt, but not since valley people have been flying in en masse and it seems more like a rich people playground. Never been to Burning Man, so take with a grain of salt. I've also not been to the CCC for around 7 or 8 years, so not sure how much the original counterculture spirit is still alive. "The Tribes of Burning Man" was a good read, but in stark contrast to everything I've read online for the last few years.
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- turing_complete 3y ago
  CCC used to be anarchist hackers fighting government control and surveillance. Now many of them seem to be boring pro-EU, leftist "activists". Unfortunately.
panzi 3y ago
Also you can have a look at recordings at https://media.ccc.de https://media.ccc.de e.g. the recordings from this years Chaos Communication Camp: https://media.ccc.de/c/camp2023 https://media.ccc.de/c/camp2023 (I think the congress has more live dubbing between German and English than the camp, so look at recordings from old congresses for that.) That camp is like a congress on a camping ground with all the hacker spaces showing of their stuff, lots of light installations, party etc. which is not in the recordings. In contrast to Burning Man it is not in the desert, but in the greenery. (I only was at one camp many many years ago.) To see the non-talk stuff search for cccamp23 on YouTube and Flickr, e.g. see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bimVzt9MUog https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bimVzt9MUog
- opello 3y ago
  Not only past Congresses but when it's going on they live stream the vast majority of the talks. There are also "signal angels" that will relay questions asked on IRC to the speaker if you're looking for more direct participation. It's an awe-inspiring system to behold, and frustrating that not all "technology" conferences have adopted this level of wide-spread engagement. It's quite literally the most accessible conference for remote attendees and has been for years. They even live translate talks into multiple, other languages! I'm a big fan of the CCC and have never tried to travel to attend. Attending remotely is such a convenient experience. The only disappointing part is missing out on incidental conversation and of course the sticker operations. https://events.ccc.de/ https://events.ccc.de/

For ppl that don't know what is this, imagine a tech-oriented burning man with more infra since it's in the city and (usually) less nude ppl (at least that's the impression I get)

danpalmer 3y ago

Also more anarchist politics, fewer tech bro libertarians.

mikae1 3y ago
In fact, most CCC participants would probably see the comparison with Burning Man as the greatest insult imaginable (and that's not because of the nude people).
- danpalmer 3y ago
  Indeed. And from what I've heard the lack of nude people is probably highly dependent on which after parties you get invited to. Somewhere there's a venn diagram showing certain alternative communities with wide overlaps with CCC attendees.
  - falqun 3y ago
    Kink, chaos and poly/RA? :D
- albertzeyer 3y ago
  Why do you think so? I have never been at Burning Man and know only little about it, but from this little impression, I actually also did this comparison when I described the CCC event, and I have been to many of those events. Despite the tech stuff, there is also lots of art, music and party, and a lot of crazy people (meant in a good way).
  - wink 3y ago
    I think the comparison with the old Burning Man is apt, but not since valley people have been flying in en masse and it seems more like a rich people playground. Never been to Burning Man, so take with a grain of salt. I've also not been to the CCC for around 7 or 8 years, so not sure how much the original counterculture spirit is still alive. "The Tribes of Burning Man" was a good read, but in stark contrast to everything I've read online for the last few years.
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turing_complete 3y ago
CCC used to be anarchist hackers fighting government control and surveillance. Now many of them seem to be boring pro-EU, leftist "activists". Unfortunately.

panzi 3y ago

Also you can have a look at recordings at https://media.ccc.de https://media.ccc.de e.g. the recordings from this years Chaos Communication Camp: https://media.ccc.de/c/camp2023 https://media.ccc.de/c/camp2023 (I think the congress has more live dubbing between German and English than the camp, so look at recordings from old congresses for that.) That camp is like a congress on a camping ground with all the hacker spaces showing of their stuff, lots of light installations, party etc. which is not in the recordings. In contrast to Burning Man it is not in the desert, but in the greenery. (I only was at one camp many many years ago.) To see the non-talk stuff search for cccamp23 on YouTube and Flickr, e.g. see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bimVzt9MUog https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bimVzt9MUog

opello 3y ago
Not only past Congresses but when it's going on they live stream the vast majority of the talks. There are also "signal angels" that will relay questions asked on IRC to the speaker if you're looking for more direct participation. It's an awe-inspiring system to behold, and frustrating that not all "technology" conferences have adopted this level of wide-spread engagement. It's quite literally the most accessible conference for remote attendees and has been for years. They even live translate talks into multiple, other languages! I'm a big fan of the CCC and have never tried to travel to attend. Attending remotely is such a convenient experience. The only disappointing part is missing out on incidental conversation and of course the sticker operations. https://events.ccc.de/ https://events.ccc.de/