3 ms·

> This is why people hate AI and the people who use it. For me personally, I just hate that they don't stop talking about it! I think focusing on the AI-shit

> This is why people hate AI and the people who use it. For me personally, I just hate that they don't stop talking about it! I think focusing on the AI-shit is missing my point: why do you even care about this? What is really at stake in this? Is it really just the idea that there is some kind injustice being done? An injustice to whom? If you spend your life doing all the hard work it takes to excel at something, the rewards of that hard work are intrinsic to your new mastery. What someone calls you or not because of your skill is like the least important thing about the entire pursuit. I too am quick to point out how annoying the AI stuff is, but I think if we are going to defeat them we need to hold on and affirm shared human capacity more than we need to protect titles.

krapp 3y ago
You don't want to defeat them, you want people to stop complaining and accept AI with open arms. You don't even understand why anyone would think AI needs to be defeated, or why anyone would even care. That you seem to believe my comments are just about pride and ego and "protecting titles" suggests you either can't comprehend the nature of the arguments being made against AI, or refuse to. Fine. Don't say you weren't warned, though.
- beepbooptheory 3y ago
  I'm sorry I can't understand if your rhetoric here is saying that I really don't want to defeat them, or if none of us should want to. At least for the first one: I definitely do! "Defeat" is maybe a little clumsy, and its less wanting to squash AI itself (for one thing, because this new stuff isn't really "AI"), but rather what it represents and who is going to use it, or even right now, who is going to use the bare idea of it to hurt workers and demoralize us in general. The whole hype train is a big jumping of the shark of an already fraught and misguided industry. An industry propped up by senseless financial instruments and false ideals of technological determinism. It is no good! If you really can only see this whole argument as only a pure black and white dilemma, that either this guy is a "programmer" and AI is good || this guy is definitely not a programmer and AI is bad, then I would urge you maybe to invite more nuance into your thinking. But also not a big deal! It's more important we are on the same side about the big stuff, then whether we agree about words. Which was kinda my whole point all along!

krapp 3y ago

You don't want to defeat them, you want people to stop complaining and accept AI with open arms. You don't even understand why anyone would think AI needs to be defeated, or why anyone would even care. That you seem to believe my comments are just about pride and ego and "protecting titles" suggests you either can't comprehend the nature of the arguments being made against AI, or refuse to. Fine. Don't say you weren't warned, though.

beepbooptheory 3y ago
I'm sorry I can't understand if your rhetoric here is saying that I really don't want to defeat them, or if none of us should want to. At least for the first one: I definitely do! "Defeat" is maybe a little clumsy, and its less wanting to squash AI itself (for one thing, because this new stuff isn't really "AI"), but rather what it represents and who is going to use it, or even right now, who is going to use the bare idea of it to hurt workers and demoralize us in general. The whole hype train is a big jumping of the shark of an already fraught and misguided industry. An industry propped up by senseless financial instruments and false ideals of technological determinism. It is no good! If you really can only see this whole argument as only a pure black and white dilemma, that either this guy is a "programmer" and AI is good || this guy is definitely not a programmer and AI is bad, then I would urge you maybe to invite more nuance into your thinking. But also not a big deal! It's more important we are on the same side about the big stuff, then whether we agree about words. Which was kinda my whole point all along!