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Not every. Draisine is missing: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draisine

by dvh 3y ago

eesmith 3y ago
The presenter clarified it was for unpowered cars pulled by a locomotive. A draisine does not fit that description.
sitkack 3y ago
This railbus is adorable! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rail_bus01.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rail_bus01.jpg
- mschuster91 3y ago
  A bit larger and you can use these as legitimate standard trains, like this VT 98 from Germany [1]. Either you attach them at the rear of a regular train for longer distances and then separate it to serve a leg on some rural side track, or you attach a passenger car should you face higher demand on a day (e.g. popular tourist destinations), or you attach a freight car for express service to some industry along the tracks [2]. I seriously miss these things, there are so many rural railways that got shut down following the privatisation frenzy in the 90s, and could really be made to work again with a modern variant. [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Baureihe_798_752-2.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Baureihe_798_752-2.j... [2] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DB-Baureihe_VT_98 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DB-Baureihe_VT_98
  - LargoLasskhyfv 3y ago
    Do you remember "Hält and jeder Milchkanne" (Stops at every milk can)? That's because they did that, which means they collected the aluminum cans of milk at the little stops, which farmers put there, and transported them to the city, or next dairy. Usually on a flatcar in tow, sometimes pigs, goats, sheep, cows too! But that stopped long before the 90ies. I guess that was over around 1975, or so.
  - namibj 3y ago
    The problem is that they're susceptible to accidents like Dahlerau. If this light thing runs into a freight train, it crushed the passengers. It wiped out 2/3rds of the senior grade (2 classes IIUC). But remember that in e.g. rural areas between Hamburg and Berlin similar single-car D"M"Us are used for servicing the villages.
    - sitkack 3y ago
      You know with the instantaneous power output of electric drive trains and the low speed of freight trains, you might be able to reverse direction and get back up to a speed where the collision wouldn't be catastrophic. Though it would require rubber coated drive wheels. I don't think the collision danger should be a reason to not use these. They really could open up a whole lot more rail service on under utilized lines.
- twic 3y ago
  Don't say that to anyone from Northern England, they had to suffer these things for a generation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacer_(British_Rail) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacer_(British_Rail)

Not every. Draisine is missing: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draisine

by dvh 3y ago

Not every. Draisine is missing: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draisine

eesmith 3y ago

The presenter clarified it was for unpowered cars pulled by a locomotive. A draisine does not fit that description.

sitkack 3y ago

This railbus is adorable! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rail_bus01.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rail_bus01.jpg

mschuster91 3y ago
A bit larger and you can use these as legitimate standard trains, like this VT 98 from Germany [1]. Either you attach them at the rear of a regular train for longer distances and then separate it to serve a leg on some rural side track, or you attach a passenger car should you face higher demand on a day (e.g. popular tourist destinations), or you attach a freight car for express service to some industry along the tracks [2]. I seriously miss these things, there are so many rural railways that got shut down following the privatisation frenzy in the 90s, and could really be made to work again with a modern variant. [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Baureihe_798_752-2.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Baureihe_798_752-2.j... [2] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DB-Baureihe_VT_98 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DB-Baureihe_VT_98
- LargoLasskhyfv 3y ago
  Do you remember "Hält and jeder Milchkanne" (Stops at every milk can)? That's because they did that, which means they collected the aluminum cans of milk at the little stops, which farmers put there, and transported them to the city, or next dairy. Usually on a flatcar in tow, sometimes pigs, goats, sheep, cows too! But that stopped long before the 90ies. I guess that was over around 1975, or so.
- namibj 3y ago
  The problem is that they're susceptible to accidents like Dahlerau. If this light thing runs into a freight train, it crushed the passengers. It wiped out 2/3rds of the senior grade (2 classes IIUC). But remember that in e.g. rural areas between Hamburg and Berlin similar single-car D"M"Us are used for servicing the villages.
  - sitkack 3y ago
    You know with the instantaneous power output of electric drive trains and the low speed of freight trains, you might be able to reverse direction and get back up to a speed where the collision wouldn't be catastrophic. Though it would require rubber coated drive wheels. I don't think the collision danger should be a reason to not use these. They really could open up a whole lot more rail service on under utilized lines.
twic 3y ago
Don't say that to anyone from Northern England, they had to suffer these things for a generation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacer_(British_Rail) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacer_(British_Rail)