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This is a low content post meant to inflame. Please respect the HN guidelines.

baz00 3y ago
Firstly, it's accurate. Secondly, no community should be beyond criticism, guidelines or not. Thirdly, I'll extrapolate on the comment because it hits hard for me. I've seen a lot of dystopian capitalist thinking and reasoning on here over the years, particularly recently with self driving vehicles and ML regulation. A large proportion of users wish to get away with what the hell they like at whatever cost to society that may have as long as they get their VC funding. This peaked recently in a discussion about acceptable deaths in self driving vehicles, the comments of which made me seriously worry about my fellow citizens. The article here is a peek into a scenario which has been proven to occur when that mindset is acceptable and normalised. I can see a VC backing a second source market of unregulated aircraft parts and the justification of the corners cut because quite frankly a lot of people have no idea what they are doing and don't care about the consequences as long as the cargo cult has good marketing. This is backed up by some of the comments on this thread being a shit show. Perhaps the guidelines should regulate opinion a little better rather than comment brevity. Or HN ends up like X. Notably you can tell how healthy a community is when someone signs up a throwaway account to make a comment reminding people of the rules.
- tankenmate 3y ago
  Sure, the article is good, but the "assertion" based on of motivations based on what someone didn't say is hardly what you'd call a sound investigation or valid criticism. If court cases were decided in a similar fashion to the OP's comments then courts would turn into a shouting match. A thorough, sober investigation of the facts should be done before attempting to attribute motivations, and maybe not even then. What truly matters is the outcome; was anyone hurt? were the uncertified parts found? is the system working to keep people safe? The motivations of the airline come in a distant second to those.
- Aeolun 3y ago
  > Notably you can tell how healthy a community is when someone signs up a throwaway account to make a comment reminding people of the rules. Maybe a previous lurker specifically made an account so they could post on your comment?
lynx23 3y ago
Yeah, gonna silence the truth, ey?

Firstly, it's accurate. Secondly, no community should be beyond criticism, guidelines or not. Thirdly, I'll extrapolate on the comment because it hits hard for me. I've seen a lot of dystopian capitalist thinking and reasoning on here over the years, particularly recently with self driving vehicles and ML regulation. A large proportion of users wish to get away with what the hell they like at whatever cost to society that may have as long as they get their VC funding. This peaked recently in a discussion about acceptable deaths in self driving vehicles, the comments of which made me seriously worry about my fellow citizens. The article here is a peek into a scenario which has been proven to occur when that mindset is acceptable and normalised. I can see a VC backing a second source market of unregulated aircraft parts and the justification of the corners cut because quite frankly a lot of people have no idea what they are doing and don't care about the consequences as long as the cargo cult has good marketing. This is backed up by some of the comments on this thread being a shit show. Perhaps the guidelines should regulate opinion a little better rather than comment brevity. Or HN ends up like X. Notably you can tell how healthy a community is when someone signs up a throwaway account to make a comment reminding people of the rules.

tankenmate 3y ago
Sure, the article is good, but the "assertion" based on of motivations based on what someone didn't say is hardly what you'd call a sound investigation or valid criticism. If court cases were decided in a similar fashion to the OP's comments then courts would turn into a shouting match. A thorough, sober investigation of the facts should be done before attempting to attribute motivations, and maybe not even then. What truly matters is the outcome; was anyone hurt? were the uncertified parts found? is the system working to keep people safe? The motivations of the airline come in a distant second to those.
Aeolun 3y ago
> Notably you can tell how healthy a community is when someone signs up a throwaway account to make a comment reminding people of the rules. Maybe a previous lurker specifically made an account so they could post on your comment?

lynx23 3y ago

Yeah, gonna silence the truth, ey?