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If you look at statistics of many countries that are heavily vaccinated, you will see the excess deaths have risen a lot. While countries that were not heavily
by wsc981 3y ago
If you look at statistics of many countries that are heavily vaccinated, you will see the excess deaths have risen a lot. While countries that were not heavily vaccinated, don't seem to have risen (greatly) in excess deaths.
Here's a list of countries that had low COVID vaccination rates: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/02/these-countries-have-the-lowest-covid-vaccination-rates-in-the-world.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/02/these-countries-have-the-low...
And while correlation doesn't mean causation, I think it's too early to tell if the benefits of the vaccines outweigh the cost. Especially because looking into the cause of excess deaths is in many countries a political sensitive topic (meaning politicians are often not interested in funding such research). Politicians might say due to privacy legislation research is not possible [0].
As an example, compare some countries from the previous article in Our World In Data:
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-average-baseline?facet=entity&country=ZAF~NLD~AUS~GBR~KGZ~GTM https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores...
South Africa & Kyrgyzistan are low vaccinated countries for COVID, while the other countries have high vaccination rates. You will see the percantage in excess deaths have greatly increased in the highly vaccinated countries.
And another thing: excess menstrual bleeding could indicate some problem which might affect childbirth. It could mean in the long run more women could get issues with childbirth. Perhaps more premature deaths. But we can only know this in the long run. We do know the vaccines had not been tested on pregnant women, or in an extremely limited way. Right now (at least on Our World in Data) it seems hard to find data on fertility rate 2021, so I think it's still too early to tell if vaccines could negatively affect birth rates, but in a couple of years we should know.
Personally, if I'd wanted children (as a man who's not vaccinated against COVID) I'd look for an unvaccinated woman. This way I feel the odds are in my favour in getting a healthy baby.
Actually, my girlfriend got 2 vaccinations against COVID (we've got a 6-year-old daughter) and she told me last weekend she feels she the COVID vaccines made her unhealthy. She says she feels tired more quickly and she feels she gets sick more quickly as well.
At the time I told my girlfriend that I preferred her not getting the COVID vaccinations and she didn't really want to get them either, but she felt it would be harder to travel, so she decided to get them anyways.
She also knows of several people in the village who've had negative experiences after vaccination. One lady in our village got the Guillain-Barré syndrome and a close friend got several health issues (problem with his blood, minor stroke recently). There's more people with issues ...
Of course, this is all anecdotal evidence, but time will tell.
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[0]: https://www.eur.nl/en/esl/news/searching-causes-excess-mortality-investigating-allowed-how https://www.eur.nl/en/esl/news/searching-causes-excess-morta...
- defrost 3y agoFrom your own links the vast overwhelming bulk of those countries with less than 33% of population fully vaccinated do not have health systems that can reliably report excess deaths, most of them are vey poor countries and a good number are undergoing civil unrest and conflict. This alone effectively uncuts your argument. Australia is a good place to look for vaccine side effects - the country has an excellent health reporting system that has been in place for many decades, it has a very high standard of general health and one of the highest global life expectancies - bad side effects would leap out in a country of > 26 million people almost all of whom have been COVID vaccinated multiple times. So far the total is one fatality via Immune (idiopathic) thrombocytopenic purpura (ITP) causally linked to vaccination. Per 26 million this is significantly lower than the fatalities causally linked to covid while unvaccinated. https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/covid-19-vaccines/advice-for-providers/clinical-guidance/adverse-events https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/covid-19-vaccines/advice-...
- dekhn 3y agoDid you really see it necessary to go off on a long diatribe merely because I said that the health benefits of vaccines outweigh the risks? Did you also need to make a number of medically uninformed statements? Did you also need to include all your anecdotes? The long and short of it is that the medical establishment believes that the health benefits of COVID vaccines outweigh the risks. If you really want to tilt at that windmill, you'll need to make much more convincing arguments to get the establishment to change its mind.
- wsc981 3y agoOnly the people in the medical establishment that are allowed to voice their opinion. For example this renowned professor with hundreds of publications has been silenced. While he believes boosters are a very likely cause of recurring cases of cancer. https://youtu.be/PnJ5T1Enwq4 https://youtu.be/PnJ5T1Enwq4
- defrost 3y agoHardly a renowned professor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(YouTuber) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(YouTuber) Nurse practitioner who went of the deep end re: COVID with hundreds(?) of youtubes is closer to the mark. For reference, actual "renowned professors" have bio pages that look a little more like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiona_Stanley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiona_Stanley Note the discussions about using population data to prove stuff, that's kind of a thing in epidemiology.