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Maybe AI will soon be used to “ghostwrite” a relationship to a polite end. Imagine switching a dating conversation to ghostwrite mode. The AI will reply as you

by pavlov 3y ago

Maybe AI will soon be used to “ghostwrite” a relationship to a polite end. Imagine switching a dating conversation to ghostwrite mode. The AI will reply as you, coming up with some suitable phrases and polite excuses until the other side gets the hint. Of course it would hurt even more when you get paranoid suspicions that you’ve already been handed over to the person’s ghost bot. “It’s not you, it’s me. Well, technically not even me, it’s my LLM autoreply”

kaycey2022 3y ago
When speech truly is violence
neilalexander 3y ago
Exceptionally dystopian.
- nonrandomstring 3y ago
  Wow, yeah! But what if your AI ghost got talking. And the other person's AI ghostwriter too. And they hit it off. You come back a week later and your two AI ghostwriters have exchanged phone numbers, gone on some dates and are planning on moving in together.
  - nuancebydefault 3y ago
    Circular-interactive AI's will consume all bandwidth in the blink of an eye. We need some AI to control it and to filter out the human from the AI. Maybe using some AI-in-the-middle attack vector to stall the bots a bit. Man, it might get very messy.
  - bonton89 3y ago
    [flagged]
simbolit 3y ago
Massively prefer ghosting. At least it isn't wasting my time.
- falcor84 3y ago
  But ghosting is wasting your time, as our brain is wired to need closure [0]. Not having that closure, is like a psychological DDOS attack, especially when done by a romantic partner, whereby (assuming you're looking for monogamy) you can't tell whether to make yourself available for someone else or not. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closure_(psychology) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closure_(psychology)
  - simbolit 3y ago
    I agree with everything you wrote. Yet, as my parent comment suggested an AI indefinitely continuing the conversation, which gives me no closure either, I still massively prefer ghosting.
    - dwighttk 3y ago
      Need a closure bot… starts with one or two subtle hints and then rips the bandaid off… you’re already gone so what do you care?
  - nuancebydefault 3y ago
    Indeed, at a certain point you will see the ghost for what it is, a mere AI.
g232089 3y ago
Tinder already has some suggested replies but I don't know if they use AI. https://old.reddit.com/r/Tinder/comments/x8ow1s/these_tinder_message_suggestions_are_awful_its/ https://old.reddit.com/r/Tinder/comments/x8ow1s/these_tinder...
aitchnyu 3y ago
Japanese consultants who do similar things for employees and bosses https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/quitting-consultants-help-japanese-leave-guilt-free-wn0pntjtt https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/quitting-consultants-help...
unsupp0rted 3y ago
"Before we part ways, I just want you to know, and to always remember, that currently you can get 50% off your first month of Squarespace if you use my code GHOSTBOT26"
- falcor84 3y ago
  Excellent, and fits well with this other post on the front page, about ads inserted into a Terry Pratchett novel. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37762092 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37762092
netsharc 3y ago
Makes me want to make an "AI" that will try to "gatekeep" or filter, for very attractive people/people who don't want their time wasted... It would chat and filter out suitors (according to the user's preferences) before the user actually talks to them. Maybe even google/look them up on LinkedIn. Then the adversary will make a bot that will try to defeat my bot's gatekeeping...
- tomjen3 3y ago
  I follow at least one person who just has a date me survey that, if you match well enough, she will then follow up on.
trgdr 3y ago
Honestly this sort of thing is so horrific that it makes me glad I'll be dead before the AI revolution really takes off.
- safety1st 3y ago
  Yeah I mean it's wild that someone thinks the answer to a sociopathic practice, is to be even more sociopathic and even better at concealing it. So once these AIs are out there dumping each other we won't just have to worry that someone who stopped talking to us has lost interest, we'll have to worry that every single conversation we're having could be an automated lie in progress... We are going to fuck our species up so hard with this shit.
- nuancebydefault 3y ago
  I don't know know your age or health status but nonetheless I'm convinced you will be still alive in the midst of the AI revolution, complete with all its weird and at times horrible side effects.
- FormerBandmate 3y ago
  We should have relationships but they’re entirely based on text and also the AIs text for us. When the AIs love each other enough the male AI forks the code of the female AI, injecting his code, to make a new hybrid model
  - mcphage 3y ago
    What happens if the kind of people you're into doesn't match up with the kind of AI that your AI is into?
_lvbh 3y ago
> Maybe AI will soon be used to “ghostwrite” a relationship to a polite end. I want this so much
benjaminwootton 3y ago
The first use case will be to use AI to try to attract the other side. So your AI will pursue them, likely decide it doesn’t want them, then let them down gently. And it will probably be interacting with their AI in some weird game. Stop the world I want to get off!
voisin 3y ago
On the flip side, how about an AI Wingman that learns who you are attracted to, swipes right in dating apps to people who fit the profile, then starts a conversation. The user need only check their calendar for which dates they are going on that week and a summary of the conversation so far.

by pavlov 3y ago

kaycey2022 3y ago

When speech truly is violence

neilalexander 3y ago

Exceptionally dystopian.

nonrandomstring 3y ago
Wow, yeah! But what if your AI ghost got talking. And the other person's AI ghostwriter too. And they hit it off. You come back a week later and your two AI ghostwriters have exchanged phone numbers, gone on some dates and are planning on moving in together.
- nuancebydefault 3y ago
  Circular-interactive AI's will consume all bandwidth in the blink of an eye. We need some AI to control it and to filter out the human from the AI. Maybe using some AI-in-the-middle attack vector to stall the bots a bit. Man, it might get very messy.
- bonton89 3y ago
  [flagged]

simbolit 3y ago

Massively prefer ghosting. At least it isn't wasting my time.

falcor84 3y ago
But ghosting is wasting your time, as our brain is wired to need closure [0]. Not having that closure, is like a psychological DDOS attack, especially when done by a romantic partner, whereby (assuming you're looking for monogamy) you can't tell whether to make yourself available for someone else or not. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closure_(psychology) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closure_(psychology)
- simbolit 3y ago
  I agree with everything you wrote. Yet, as my parent comment suggested an AI indefinitely continuing the conversation, which gives me no closure either, I still massively prefer ghosting.
  - dwighttk 3y ago
    Need a closure bot… starts with one or two subtle hints and then rips the bandaid off… you’re already gone so what do you care?
- nuancebydefault 3y ago
  Indeed, at a certain point you will see the ghost for what it is, a mere AI.

g232089 3y ago

Tinder already has some suggested replies but I don't know if they use AI. https://old.reddit.com/r/Tinder/comments/x8ow1s/these_tinder_message_suggestions_are_awful_its/ https://old.reddit.com/r/Tinder/comments/x8ow1s/these_tinder...

aitchnyu 3y ago

Japanese consultants who do similar things for employees and bosses https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/quitting-consultants-help-japanese-leave-guilt-free-wn0pntjtt https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/quitting-consultants-help...

unsupp0rted 3y ago

"Before we part ways, I just want you to know, and to always remember, that currently you can get 50% off your first month of Squarespace if you use my code GHOSTBOT26"

falcor84 3y ago
Excellent, and fits well with this other post on the front page, about ads inserted into a Terry Pratchett novel. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37762092 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37762092

netsharc 3y ago

Makes me want to make an "AI" that will try to "gatekeep" or filter, for very attractive people/people who don't want their time wasted... It would chat and filter out suitors (according to the user's preferences) before the user actually talks to them. Maybe even google/look them up on LinkedIn. Then the adversary will make a bot that will try to defeat my bot's gatekeeping...

tomjen3 3y ago
I follow at least one person who just has a date me survey that, if you match well enough, she will then follow up on.

trgdr 3y ago

Honestly this sort of thing is so horrific that it makes me glad I'll be dead before the AI revolution really takes off.

safety1st 3y ago
Yeah I mean it's wild that someone thinks the answer to a sociopathic practice, is to be even more sociopathic and even better at concealing it. So once these AIs are out there dumping each other we won't just have to worry that someone who stopped talking to us has lost interest, we'll have to worry that every single conversation we're having could be an automated lie in progress... We are going to fuck our species up so hard with this shit.
nuancebydefault 3y ago
I don't know know your age or health status but nonetheless I'm convinced you will be still alive in the midst of the AI revolution, complete with all its weird and at times horrible side effects.
FormerBandmate 3y ago
We should have relationships but they’re entirely based on text and also the AIs text for us. When the AIs love each other enough the male AI forks the code of the female AI, injecting his code, to make a new hybrid model
- mcphage 3y ago
  What happens if the kind of people you're into doesn't match up with the kind of AI that your AI is into?

_lvbh 3y ago

> Maybe AI will soon be used to “ghostwrite” a relationship to a polite end. I want this so much

benjaminwootton 3y ago

The first use case will be to use AI to try to attract the other side. So your AI will pursue them, likely decide it doesn’t want them, then let them down gently. And it will probably be interacting with their AI in some weird game. Stop the world I want to get off!

voisin 3y ago

On the flip side, how about an AI Wingman that learns who you are attracted to, swipes right in dating apps to people who fit the profile, then starts a conversation. The user need only check their calendar for which dates they are going on that week and a summary of the conversation so far.