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There is plenty of space in Europe, and plenty of housing in Europe. Parts of France are full of empty houses, in Italy whole villages are up for sale, and East

There is plenty of space in Europe, and plenty of housing in Europe. Parts of France are full of empty houses, in Italy whole villages are up for sale, and East Germany has lost large amounts of population. If governments could make living in areas where lots of living space is available attractive, we would not need new houses.

uoaei 3y ago
Lots and buildings for sale in Spain and Portugal but they look like the repairs would cost more than the entire package as-is.
ipsento606 3y ago
> If governments could make living in areas where lots of living space is available attractive, we would not need new houses. Perhaps it's easier to make it legal to build more housing in desirable areas instead of convincing millions of people to live in small, deserted villages with no jobs
- danaris 3y ago
  Well, if lots of people move there, they won't be deserted anymore. And with so much remote work available today, why do you need there to be a job there waiting for you? Just bring your job with you.
bafe 3y ago
I doubt the government can do much for this (unless you want to return to the old East German tradition of planned production): these places offers very limited jobs and lower incomes. It would need a very large investment to make these places attractive enough for business to move there
rilindo 3y ago
This feels like the same argument that is given here in the US[0], which mean that in general, most of the housing is not likely to be usable anyway. [0] https://youtu.be/3xZXdXxYBGU?si=QfLA4Ui1v4NVpxd_ https://youtu.be/3xZXdXxYBGU?si=QfLA4Ui1v4NVpxd_
throw_m239339 3y ago
A lot of these houses can't be rented due to climate change legislations. That's the inconvenient truth. Governments can't have it both ways, no matter how hard they try. Climate change policies will be extremely costly for the population. Fixing houses so that they conform current regulations costs a lot of money. > If governments could make living in areas where lots of living space is available attractive, we would not need new houses. Yes, it requires jobs, services thus infrastructures thus $$$ or €€€ in that case. It also require changes in corporate culture, as corporations are trying to crack down on work from home as we speak. When it comes to education, as well, instead of making students move to Paris or Rome to study, encourage remote education when possible. There are technological solutions to these problems, certainly.

uoaei 3y ago

Lots and buildings for sale in Spain and Portugal but they look like the repairs would cost more than the entire package as-is.

ipsento606 3y ago

> If governments could make living in areas where lots of living space is available attractive, we would not need new houses. Perhaps it's easier to make it legal to build more housing in desirable areas instead of convincing millions of people to live in small, deserted villages with no jobs

danaris 3y ago
Well, if lots of people move there, they won't be deserted anymore. And with so much remote work available today, why do you need there to be a job there waiting for you? Just bring your job with you.

bafe 3y ago

I doubt the government can do much for this (unless you want to return to the old East German tradition of planned production): these places offers very limited jobs and lower incomes. It would need a very large investment to make these places attractive enough for business to move there

rilindo 3y ago

This feels like the same argument that is given here in the US[0], which mean that in general, most of the housing is not likely to be usable anyway. [0] https://youtu.be/3xZXdXxYBGU?si=QfLA4Ui1v4NVpxd_ https://youtu.be/3xZXdXxYBGU?si=QfLA4Ui1v4NVpxd_

throw_m239339 3y ago

A lot of these houses can't be rented due to climate change legislations. That's the inconvenient truth. Governments can't have it both ways, no matter how hard they try. Climate change policies will be extremely costly for the population. Fixing houses so that they conform current regulations costs a lot of money. > If governments could make living in areas where lots of living space is available attractive, we would not need new houses. Yes, it requires jobs, services thus infrastructures thus $$$ or €€€ in that case. It also require changes in corporate culture, as corporations are trying to crack down on work from home as we speak. When it comes to education, as well, instead of making students move to Paris or Rome to study, encourage remote education when possible. There are technological solutions to these problems, certainly.