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Stats on popularity from TIOBE: http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index...

Stats on popularity from TIOBE: http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.... (Obj-C now the 5th most popular and quickly rising)

amir 15y ago
Not an organic growth though.
- weekends 15y ago
  define organic. In nature things grow quickly, sometimes exponentially all the time.
reidrac 15y ago
I always wondered if that popularity is tied to Apple devices. I mean... are there projects using Obj-C out of an Apple context? Other sources: http://lang-index.sourceforge.net/ http://lang-index.sourceforge.net/ https://github.com/languages https://github.com/languages
- davidw 15y ago
  Or, the best of them all: http://langpop.com http://langpop.com
  - ShardPhoenix 15y ago
    Unfortunately this hasn't been updated in almost a year.
    - davidw 15y ago
      I keep hoping someone will buy the thing from me. It's been fun to run it, and I think the metrics are a lot better than TIOBE's, but I just don't have the time any more.
- 0x09 15y ago
  > are there projects using Obj-C out of an Apple context? It's the same as 12 years ago: just GNUStep and things in the GNUStep halo like Étoilé. Sony started a project to put GNUStep on mobile (SNAP) a few years ago and promptly dropped it. > I always wondered if that popularity is tied to Apple devices. There's no doubt about that.
  - ralfd 15y ago
    SNAP was a very strange story. I tried to google what happened and on 25 Nov 2010 all reported "big news: Sony is using Obj-C with GNUstep!" and two days later on the 27th "Sony killed SNAP!" http://blog.deliciousrobots.com/2010/11/27/sonys-changes-to-gnustep-gui-library-adding-touch/ http://blog.deliciousrobots.com/2010/11/27/sonys-changes-to-...
    - 0x09 15y ago
      The word on the street was that they got skittish about stepping on Apple's IP. Which is a shame, because GNUStep doesn't get nearly enough attention.
- rahoulb 15y ago
  My friend worked for a big bank for nearly ten years in Obj-C (using NeXTStep and OpenStep) - and quit when they moved to Java a couple of years ago.
  - SeanLuke 15y ago
    That would have to be Credit Suisse.
    - rahoulb 15y ago
      Yup ;-)

amir 15y ago

Not an organic growth though.

weekends 15y ago
define organic. In nature things grow quickly, sometimes exponentially all the time.

reidrac 15y ago

I always wondered if that popularity is tied to Apple devices. I mean... are there projects using Obj-C out of an Apple context? Other sources: http://lang-index.sourceforge.net/ http://lang-index.sourceforge.net/ https://github.com/languages https://github.com/languages

davidw 15y ago
Or, the best of them all: http://langpop.com http://langpop.com
- ShardPhoenix 15y ago
  Unfortunately this hasn't been updated in almost a year.
  - davidw 15y ago
    I keep hoping someone will buy the thing from me. It's been fun to run it, and I think the metrics are a lot better than TIOBE's, but I just don't have the time any more.
0x09 15y ago
> are there projects using Obj-C out of an Apple context? It's the same as 12 years ago: just GNUStep and things in the GNUStep halo like Étoilé. Sony started a project to put GNUStep on mobile (SNAP) a few years ago and promptly dropped it. > I always wondered if that popularity is tied to Apple devices. There's no doubt about that.
- ralfd 15y ago
  SNAP was a very strange story. I tried to google what happened and on 25 Nov 2010 all reported "big news: Sony is using Obj-C with GNUstep!" and two days later on the 27th "Sony killed SNAP!" http://blog.deliciousrobots.com/2010/11/27/sonys-changes-to-gnustep-gui-library-adding-touch/ http://blog.deliciousrobots.com/2010/11/27/sonys-changes-to-...
  - 0x09 15y ago
    The word on the street was that they got skittish about stepping on Apple's IP. Which is a shame, because GNUStep doesn't get nearly enough attention.
rahoulb 15y ago
My friend worked for a big bank for nearly ten years in Obj-C (using NeXTStep and OpenStep) - and quit when they moved to Java a couple of years ago.
- SeanLuke 15y ago
  That would have to be Credit Suisse.
  - rahoulb 15y ago
    Yup ;-)