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Yes, it is good that they found the child, by any mean’s necessary. Yes, it is concerning that, the moment you’re in police custody, for any reason, your biome
by cowsup 3y ago
Yes, it is good that they found the child, by any mean’s necessary.
Yes, it is concerning that, the moment you’re in police custody, for any reason, your biometrics are stored indefinitely. Both can be true.
We could bring crime to near-zero if we give the government full, unlimited access to all of our communications, devices, and our homes. There are happy mediums in between, and the above commenter thinks a decades-long storing of your fingerprint sounds concerning.
- ethanbond 3y agoIMO it seems reasonable that unless you’re convicted within, say, 1 year, your fingerprints are deleted. FWIW if you’re convicted of a DUI I have no problem with your prints being stored indefinitely. DUIs are treated as far, far more minor offenses than they really are.
- robertlagrant 3y agoIt seems totally pointless to keep them for a DUI. You have a criminal record if you have one. What do the prints help with?
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y agoIdentifying Bob when the name Charlie is given.
- CBarkleyU 3y agoJust off the top of my head: The prints might help identify you in case you adbuct a little kid
- Yoric 3y agoDo I understand correctly that you are for storing the biometrics of every adult in case they abduct a little kid?
- GauntletWizard 3y agoI'm okay with storing the fingerprints and photos of every adult, period. These very loosely tie people to places and times, and perhaps we would treat them more as the very loose link if we understood better how dragnet they are. I'm definitely okay with keeping them on file for every convicted criminal, though I will continue to argue for certain kinds of convictions to be thrown out.
- wierd-eye-loser 3y ago[dead]
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoThe answer depends if you have a little kid that will be abducted or not. If they are, you'll definitely wish they could be found quickly.
- robertlagrant 3y ago> if you have a little kid that will be abducted or not Presumably you're not going to have one who will be. But that aside - this is silly. Why DUI? Why not just all adults, if you want to go police state on people?
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoIf you have a need, then why would you not want a police state? Losing a child is a horrible thing, a horrible feeling to those that experience it. Heck, most progressive are just a mugging away from becoming neocons. That’s just how life is.
- Yoric 3y agoI'm not so sure. The country in which I live has survived a police state, but it has left deep scars. I, for one, am willing not willing to pay the price of living in a police state even assuming that it might decrease crime. Incidentally, I'm pretty sure that my country had much higher rate of murder/theft/kidnapping while it was a police state.
- mushbino 3y agoIf you're taken into jail, whether you're charged with anything or not and whether you're convicted of anything or not, they keep your fingerprints.
- ethanbond 3y agoRight, which is why I just specified what I think would be a reasonable change.
- DharmaPolice 3y ago>We could bring crime to near-zero if we give the government full, unlimited access to all of our communications, devices, and our homes. No, we really couldn't. That's an authoritarian fantasy. I don't think people really grasp the volume of crime that's occurring every single day. There aren't enough prisons/police/etc to enforce even a fraction of the laws on the books.
- pvaldes 3y ago> We could bring crime to near-zero if we give the government full, unlimited access to all of our communications, devices, and our homes. Will not scale. They had full, unlimited access to all the communications, devices, home and working place of one citizen for four whole years, and the list of criminal charges is higher than the Trump tower