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In many older urban areas it's hard to get beyond 30km/hr just due to the traffic, narrow streets, lights, cobbles etc.

• Vinnl 3y ago
  In many (also newer) urban areas in the Netherlands, narrow streets and cobbles are used intentionally to encourage lower speeds. The "30" sign is more of a last resort in that sense.
  • wink 3y ago
    cycling on cobblestone sucks though, so not sure how that really works out :P (Let's assume there's no dedicated cycle path next to the cobblestone road, guess it depends)
    • Vinnl 3y ago
      Ah sorry, I was actually thinking of paving stones - but it still holds that those are usually used to encourage lower driving speeds than asphalt, and are way more comfortable than cobblestones for cycling. You also see asphalt in use more and more often in streets where the number of cyclists are significant enough that cars are forced to drive slowly anyway.
    • mcv 3y ago
      The Dam square in the centre of Amsterdam has extremely bumpy cobblestones. It's not impossible to bike on, but even for bikes it's more comfortable if you go a bit slower than usual, which might be the intention. The lines between the lanes are made from much smoother stone though, so when I'm in a hurry, I just ride on those lines.