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People experience ‘new dimensions of reality' when dying: study
- momirlan 3y agoit's been done already in Brainstorm, movie from the '80
- bookofjoe 3y agoLoved that film trailer: https://youtu.be/ueYcVmH0edk?si=FmT_cZn3Smow-T4g https://youtu.be/ueYcVmH0edk?si=FmT_cZn3Smow-T4g rental: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EihlaHq2xs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EihlaHq2xs
- woodpanel 3y ago[flagged]
- michaelteter 3y agoPerhaps separating the mind from most of the physical senses is partially what gives people a new sense of being and clarity. We expend a lot of making sense of sensory inputs, but what if most of that processing power is freed up? Perhaps this is related to how some mediation practitioners claim to have clearer focus of thought.
- entropyneur 3y ago> a possible resumption of a network-level of cognitive and neuronal activity emerged up to 35–60 minutes into CPR. That sounds rather disturbing TBH. I was hoping that when you're done, you are done.
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- rkagerer 3y agoThere have been a few cases of CPR resucitating a patient after several hours of hypothermia. It seems (in some cases) to be able to slow down how long it takes until "you're done". One example: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/christine-tink-newman-s-medical-miracle-revived-from-near-death-1.2591379 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/christine-ti...
- jnovek 3y agoThis reminds me of the feeling of calm that survivors have reported when they are dying of hypothermia or drowning. I wonder what the evolutionary advantage of these things is?
- rich_sasha 3y agoIf you're at the point of dying, probably not much you can do to pass on your genes.
- OJFord 3y agoThe argument would be that people who don't have strokes have more time to spend passing on genes.
- Brian_K_White 3y agogenetics isn't that simple. You share genes with people who do have children, and so genes which cause you to somehow benefit others, or even just yourself, are still selected over ones that don't, even if you don't have kids ypurself. Not that I see how a head trip while dying can be any part of this process, just saying that "pass on your genes" is not all there is to genes.
- jncfhnb 3y agoWhat’s the evolutionary advantage of having a stroke? Nothing. It’s something breaking and having arbitrary consequences.
- Brian_K_White 3y agoThere could absolutely be an evolutionary advantage to genes that kill some % of individuals, depending on who/when/where/why, since genes also work at the species and even ecosystem level, not just the individual level. Just like there are genes to kill individual cells.
- jncfhnb 3y ago
- dzink 3y agoIf this is not well researched or if it’s improperly done it can be really dangerous. If people start believing their loved ones are in there when doctors can’t really save them this could add a lot of suffering and cost to the healthcare system. Can anyone here tell?
- mikercampbell 3y agoMy thing is, if this is true, then a fairly large percentage of us will experience a “lock-in” syndrome of complete paralysis for as long as a hour before we die. Death just got a bit longer haha.
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- nytesky 3y agoI worry sometimes that our perception of time changes as we near death, such that the actual dying moments could feel like year and years… sort of like the Picard flute story line from TNG
- somedude895 3y agoI once had a really bad trip where I thought this was what was happening, or it lasting for eternity. It was the worst thing ever and I ended up with really bad psychosis for a year after, repeatedly getting panic attacks.
- colordrops 3y agoWhich substance?
- somedude895 3y agoCannabis, funny enough
- FollowingTheDao 3y ago"New dimensions of reality"? Sorry, there is only one dimension of reality. Our perception of that reality changes from the norm because neurotransmitters are obviously wonking about. Don't romanticize death and dying, it's not good for people on the edge of caring about living.
- improv 3y ago>Sorry, there is only one dimension of reality. How do you know that?
- FollowingTheDao 3y ago𝑚=𝐸/𝑐2
- p1mrx 3y agoYes, energy is heavy. What's your point?
- canadiantim 3y agoAnd is it length, width or depth? Surely our reality has atleast three dimensions.
- edgyquant 3y agoThose dimensions are an invention of our brains
- philipov 3y agoNo, there are three plus one dimensions of reality.
- layer8 3y agoThe cardinality of ℝⁿ is the same though for all finite n (same for ℕ, ℤ, or ℚ), so it doesn’t make that much of a difference. ;)
- rafaelvasco 3y agoAnd it's indeed heightened consciousness and not merely hallucinations as in several cases people describe scenes and events occurring around them or even far away from them, that are later confirmed and verified. My only conclusion is that somehow our consciousness is completely independent from our brains, is connected to everything like a huge network, and survives death to exist in another dimension of reality.
- dumbmrblah 3y agoDo you have some journal articles on this?
- idiotsecant 3y agoThat is.....quite a conclusion .
- mpalmer 3y agoWho exactly has confirmed and verified legitimate instances of astral projection? That's not in the article.
- idiotsecant 3y ago[flagged]
- colordrops 3y agoOne thing that really bothers me about HN is highly of opinionated comments that trash research but then make a bunch of unsourced anonymous claims themselves as if they authority figures on the matter. You may be right, but give some evidence or references for your claims
- mistermann 3y agoWeird things happen when the mind contemplates the mind, it happens in every thread.
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- mpalmer 3y agoClickbait from a Vice writer who doesn't know better and didn't bother to try. The ground is thoroughly broken here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6107838/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6107838/
- signa11 3y agoi found this statement (fta) ''' Most doctors are taught and believe that the brain dies after about five or 10 minutes of oxygen deprivation,” Parnia said. “One of the key points that comes out of this study is that that is actually not true. Although the brain flatlines after the heart stops, and that happens within seconds, it doesn't mean that it's permanently damaged and [has] died. It's just hibernating. What we were able to show is that actually, the brain can respond and restore function again, even after an hour later, which opens up a whole window of opportunity for doctors to start new treatments. ''' quite remarkable.
- layer8 3y agoThey also do when taking psychoactive substances.
- finnkauski 3y agoThink this is the paper https://www.resuscitationjournal.com/article/S0300-9572(23)00216-2/fulltext https://www.resuscitationjournal.com/article/S0300-9572(23)0...
- bondarchuk 3y agoBesides the woo-ily worded stuff about dimensions of reality, this stands out: >“Most doctors are taught and believe that the brain dies after about five or 10 minutes of oxygen deprivation,” Parnia said. “One of the key points that comes out of this study is that that is actually not true. Although the brain flatlines after the heart stops, and that happens within seconds, it doesn't mean that it's permanently damaged and [has] died. It's just hibernating. What we were able to show is that actually, the brain can respond and restore function again, even after an hour later, which opens up a whole window of opportunity for doctors to start new treatments.” There's a paper from 2007 called "Brain Death - Too Flawed to Endure, Too Ingrained to Abandon" that gives a more sober overview of facts and beliefs around brain death in medicine.
- raun1 3y agoFor anyone interested in research surrounding death and near death experiences, check out "The Handbook of Near-Death Experiences: Thirty Years of Investigation"