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Imagine an impossible study of 1000 pedophiles: half get access to AI-generated CP, the other half don't. If the first half was found more likely to engage in s

Imagine an impossible study of 1000 pedophiles: half get access to AI-generated CP, the other half don't. If the first half was found more likely to engage in sex crimes with minors, that would be a good reason for this to be illegal IMO. Of course we can't run that study, so it comes down to a judgement call. I am perhaps more conservative in nature and feel that a government which allows AI-generated CP is sending a disturbing message. However, I recognize the difficulty in assessing which policy would actually have the best (or rather least bad) outcome, so I don't hold this view strongly.

callalex 3y ago
> conservative in nature and feel that a government which allows One of us misunderstands what “conservative” means here. I was under the impression that it meant the government shouldn’t meddle in private affairs if it doesn’t have to.
- leptons 3y ago
  Modern conservatism has no such ideology. They may say those words when they think it will win them votes, but they often do the exact opposite.
- api 3y ago
  Historically conservatives support the maintenance of tradition and social hierarchies including by state power. Libertarians being called conservatives is a peculiar US Cold War phenomenon stemming from the fact that both found themselves opposing Marxism. Libertarians really belong on the left. Todays National Conservative movement is largely about breaking this alliance and rejecting small government conservatism/libertarianism in favor of something closer to Viktor Orban. Ron DeSantis is an example.
- nosefurhairdo 3y ago
  I meant conservative as opposed to classical liberalism, the latter ideology generally shunning social policies. I typically favor liberalism from an analytical perspective of which ideology yields better outcomes, but perhaps the emotional weight of this particular topic makes it hard for me concede.
- HDThoreaun 3y ago
  Conservative means they want to conserve an old way of life, as opposed to progressives who want progress. Modern conservatives are in favor of heavy government regulation of stuff like lgbt rights
bjourne 3y ago
But the same argument applies to good-old-fashioned porn too. Porn in which men spit and slap women (and worse) are super common on every porn site. Does watching such porn make men more abusive towards women? We don't know because we can't run the studies because inducing abusive behavior in test subjects would be extremely unethical.

callalex 3y ago

> conservative in nature and feel that a government which allows One of us misunderstands what “conservative” means here. I was under the impression that it meant the government shouldn’t meddle in private affairs if it doesn’t have to.

leptons 3y ago
Modern conservatism has no such ideology. They may say those words when they think it will win them votes, but they often do the exact opposite.
api 3y ago
Historically conservatives support the maintenance of tradition and social hierarchies including by state power. Libertarians being called conservatives is a peculiar US Cold War phenomenon stemming from the fact that both found themselves opposing Marxism. Libertarians really belong on the left. Todays National Conservative movement is largely about breaking this alliance and rejecting small government conservatism/libertarianism in favor of something closer to Viktor Orban. Ron DeSantis is an example.
nosefurhairdo 3y ago
I meant conservative as opposed to classical liberalism, the latter ideology generally shunning social policies. I typically favor liberalism from an analytical perspective of which ideology yields better outcomes, but perhaps the emotional weight of this particular topic makes it hard for me concede.
HDThoreaun 3y ago
Conservative means they want to conserve an old way of life, as opposed to progressives who want progress. Modern conservatives are in favor of heavy government regulation of stuff like lgbt rights

bjourne 3y ago

But the same argument applies to good-old-fashioned porn too. Porn in which men spit and slap women (and worse) are super common on every porn site. Does watching such porn make men more abusive towards women? We don't know because we can't run the studies because inducing abusive behavior in test subjects would be extremely unethical.