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It's reassuring that Europe has managed to solve poverty as an example to us all.

stavros 3y ago
Right, because unless you're going to completely solve poverty, you shouldn't bother trying to do anything about it at all. How does someone even make the argument that 11% poverty in the US is exactly the same as 0.4% in Denmark?
- mrighele 3y ago
  According to [1] the rate of poverty in the US is 15% compared to 6.5% in Denmark ( and 10.9% of Germany, 14.2% of Italy, and 8.4% of France, the three strongest economies of EU). [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/233910/poverty-rates-in-oecd-countries/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/233910/poverty-rates-in-...
- CamperBob2 3y ago
  By pointing out the countless differences between Denmark and the US? That said, one great thing both Denmark and the US have in common is that neither country will shoot you at the border for trying to leave.
  - cocacola1 3y ago
    Nevermind leaving the country, imagine getting killed by law enforcement because they got the wrong address: https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/video-police-shoot-man-after-responding-to-wrong-address-2/ https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/video-police-shoot-m...
    - CamperBob2 3y ago
      It was interesting to learn the other day that this class of argument actually has a name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes
  - mardifoufs 3y ago
    Denmark will deport you back to your war stricken country though if you are brown enough. Even if you are a minor. :)
- s1gnp0st 3y ago
  Because the proper comparison is to the EU, not Denmark, which is the size of a very small US state.
  - Hamuko 3y ago
    Do small US states have a lower rate of poverty?
    - api 3y ago
      US states certainly vary a lot by median income and poverty rate.
forty 3y ago
With that said, I'd rather be poor in France than in the US. At least there is a good public health care system and you can go to school& university for free.
- amadeuspagel 3y ago
  The US also has free schools, and unlike certain european countries they aren't divided into three tiers based on class.
  - basisword 3y ago
    True, but your chance of being shot while at school in France is significantly lower.
    - amadeuspagel 3y ago
      Yes, 0 rather then 0.0000001.
    - RcouF1uZ4gsC 3y ago
      But you can still be stabbed: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/02/22/europe/france-student-teacher-stabbing-intl/index.html https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/02/22/europe/france-student-tea...
  - voidbert 3y ago
    US schools receive funding based on the region they're in. Therefore, poor neighborhood => bad school.
    - amadeuspagel 3y ago
      bad school in the US => colleges particularly enthusiastic about accepting you as an underprivileged child lower tier school in germany => no higher education
      - 3y ago

Right, because unless you're going to completely solve poverty, you shouldn't bother trying to do anything about it at all. How does someone even make the argument that 11% poverty in the US is exactly the same as 0.4% in Denmark?

mrighele 3y ago
According to [1] the rate of poverty in the US is 15% compared to 6.5% in Denmark ( and 10.9% of Germany, 14.2% of Italy, and 8.4% of France, the three strongest economies of EU). [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/233910/poverty-rates-in-oecd-countries/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/233910/poverty-rates-in-...
CamperBob2 3y ago
By pointing out the countless differences between Denmark and the US? That said, one great thing both Denmark and the US have in common is that neither country will shoot you at the border for trying to leave.
- cocacola1 3y ago
  Nevermind leaving the country, imagine getting killed by law enforcement because they got the wrong address: https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/video-police-shoot-man-after-responding-to-wrong-address-2/ https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/video-police-shoot-m...
  - CamperBob2 3y ago
    It was interesting to learn the other day that this class of argument actually has a name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes
- mardifoufs 3y ago
  Denmark will deport you back to your war stricken country though if you are brown enough. Even if you are a minor. :)
s1gnp0st 3y ago
Because the proper comparison is to the EU, not Denmark, which is the size of a very small US state.
- Hamuko 3y ago
  Do small US states have a lower rate of poverty?
  - api 3y ago
    US states certainly vary a lot by median income and poverty rate.

forty 3y ago

With that said, I'd rather be poor in France than in the US. At least there is a good public health care system and you can go to school& university for free.

amadeuspagel 3y ago
The US also has free schools, and unlike certain european countries they aren't divided into three tiers based on class.
- basisword 3y ago
  True, but your chance of being shot while at school in France is significantly lower.
  - amadeuspagel 3y ago
    Yes, 0 rather then 0.0000001.
  - RcouF1uZ4gsC 3y ago
    But you can still be stabbed: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/02/22/europe/france-student-teacher-stabbing-intl/index.html https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/02/22/europe/france-student-tea...
- voidbert 3y ago
  US schools receive funding based on the region they're in. Therefore, poor neighborhood => bad school.
  - amadeuspagel 3y ago
    bad school in the US => colleges particularly enthusiastic about accepting you as an underprivileged child lower tier school in germany => no higher education
    - 3y ago